MARELLI MJET impariamola!

[mariodarkblue]

Hi guys..I open this post in order to know better the Marelli Multijet.
To begin we will start with a 70hp, then we will look at the 75 and the 90's (very similar).
The attached file ? a Lancia Ypsilon 1.3 multijet 70cv, of course.
To begin, let's start with the maps in the ecm shows us, trying to explain the meaning and conversion factors.

To begin, we analyze the maps pedal calls from the ecm TORQUE LIMITER 2
these two maps are precisely the dw of the map and express request of the couple:
x=rpm (here are actual rpm, without the need of factor conv)
y=percentage of gas pedal (factor 0.0004)
z=torque required (factor 0.023438)

from this map and the following handles the request torque is made to the engine, the nuances? ? that there are points in the negative, unfortunately I disconosco the reason.

[munro]

I f? very pleased, Mario, talk about this ecu, in particular, I've always wanted to learn more so evvero that I wanted to open I a tread similar maybe even the ecu gasoline saw that the sconosco almost totally, but I think that I would not have had the success that get you.... anyway, congratulations... and I'm listening with the ears well open.
for the study in if I think that, in marelli use any illegal substance because for me, these maps must be read to the contrary of that? not from left to right, but vice versa....? then the areas of the negative that way for me gets a totally different meaning....

[mariodarkblue]

I f? very pleased, Mario, talk about this ecu, in particular, I've always wanted to learn more so evvero that I wanted to open I a tread similar maybe even the ecu gasoline saw that the sconosco almost totally, but I think that I would not have had the success that get you.... anyway, congratulations... and I'm listening with the ears well open.
for the study in if I think that, in marelli use any illegal substance because for me, these maps must be read to the contrary of that? not from left to right, but vice versa....? then the areas of the negative that way for me gets a totally different meaning....

Thanks for the confidence ahhahaha:D
anyway, for the points in the negative, I had a thousand ideas: neutralize the first part of the pedal at high rpm, or facilitate the return to a minimum precisely at high rpm...but...I am skeptical..do you have some other idea?ah..I agree on the topic of drugs;)

[munro]

if you read the map, starting from the right you will notice that it has the classic shape of a map of the pedal edc16 with requests to pair very high in areas of low rpm and % of pedal, which must then be gradually climb to the increase of both factors in the axis....
those areas in the negative until I watched them in the wrong direction, I thought that they were "areas of cutt-off" but I now believe that to be a fix already? active in the map on the pedal itself...what?...the ecu through the areas in the negative autocorregge the DW and the equipment? torque when it is below a certain threshold...

just for the sake of completeness of info maps pedal are 8x16...
then each curve (8) ? relative to the % of the pedal...
the 16 steps instead of every turn are related to the Rpm...
but for me, they are the opposite of how ecm them represents...
where we read, "100% load and 5700 rpm" to me there should be 13% load and 85rpm..

[Backgroop]

Hello, let us start, therefore, the torque limiter(2) as he calls it ecm ? a torque limiter effective but bens? the case of the maps fuel temperature function air injection ( f(t.air))with a map similar, while immediately after you find the jelly injection correction in function of air temperature (injection correction f(t.air)), on the driver of the 70cv ecm you takes them as protectors, but are not. the number two (2) next to the written torque limiter is to indicate that there are two maps in the main map and similar..

[munro]

wrong backgroop....
those indicated by Mario are just maps pedal....
that I know of in the marelli does not c'? no map diesel depending on the temp the air and its correction...
the map that ecm's called torque limiter*2 in reality ? a torque limiter as a function of engine temp...

[sportknight]

https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?2664-Marelli-1-3-mjtd

qu? I explain everything that I was able to understand about 1.3 mjtd

[sportknight]

there was a document in the English language, which explained some of the maps of the 1.3 but I never managed to find it,one of the edc15 and 16 instead ..

someone knows something?

[munro]

I c'? I...if you want to step...

[sportknight]

If you can do me a favor

[munro]

of course I can but I do not believe whatever you say....you f? only see a p? maps with the conversion factors....
stuff that you already have? posted too..***** s, you ride him without problems....

[mariodarkblue]

So..***** and I said the maps pedal are requiring torque in nm...and as noted by munro and rpm increases, the same percentage of pedal, the demand decreases...so this map should be read to the contrary..

that is, the third line corresponds to 10% of the pedal, the various columns, however, are read from right to left...i.e. the low speed to the right, the high rpm on the left...

[Backgroop]

wrong backgroop....
those indicated by Mario are just maps pedal....
that I know of in the marelli does not c'? no map diesel depending on the temp the air and its correction...
the map that ecm's called torque limiter*2 in reality ? a torque limiter as a function of engine temp...

The map in question 6jf a2l winols with affine and the next map-injection correction f(t air):

5933

the same map on the point 75hp driver ecm up to date:

5934

[munro]

the images are too small you can't see anything...
and still, even with those we call mappepedale are maps correction diesel fuel as a function of tem p air...the "true" maps pedal where they are and what they are??

[mariodarkblue]

I agree with munro..the images are too small...and the maps pedal where are they?and then, this elusive damos that you have..? reliable?

[infinityecu]

I agree with munro..the images are too small...and the maps pedal where are they?and then, this elusive damos that you have..? reliable?

Hello mariodarkblue the negative points you should not touch them; you have to work a lot on the split and the pair carefully to get the best results on these engines

[mariodarkblue]

infinity...can you be more kiaro support? ? a tutorial to learn...we do not give info to the met?;)
xk? the points in the negative must not be touched?explanation?

[munro]

I must give credit to Mario in this tread before you would like to understand the various maps are what they are and how to interpret....
then maybe eventually you can? also discuss which mod is better than another and why?......
at this time we are discussing about what are actually maps pedal......
you know infinityecu??

[infinityecu]

I must give credit to Mario in this tread before you would like to understand the various maps are what they are and how to interpret....
then maybe eventually you can? also discuss which mod is better than another and why?......
at this time we are discussing about what are actually maps pedal......
you know infinityecu??

The map of pedal ? in the torque limiter of this address 090886


infinity...can you be more kiaro support? ? a tutorial to learn...we do not give info to the met?;)
xk? the points in the negative must not be touched?explanation?

The negative points must not be touched, precisely why? are not values increase, you may have problems of recovery and limitation turns on the accelerator etc.....

[mariodarkblue]

Sure, that address??

[munro]

the map ends at 06FFFF in 8-bit....
or if you want to 06FFFE 16-bit.....
your address is not ? this..if then we seek 009886 we end up in that part of the map dedicated to the sw.....

[munro]

The negative points must not be touched, precisely why? are not values increase, you may have problems of recovery and limitation turns on the accelerator etc.....
sorry Infinit infin..right for capirci...ma if you say that the pedal map st? on the other hand because if you touch the negative points in maps that are not pedal maps you can? have recovr o or rev limitation??

[munro]

vabb? I wrote a p? in a hurry but I think he understood.... if you do not ? the map of pedal because by touching the points in the negative you have problems limiting revs on the accelerator??

[infinityecu]

Sure, that address??

I would not have posted anything if nn were safe anyway, test the map and clarify any doubts


vabb? I wrote a p? in a hurry but I think he understood.... if you do not ? the map of pedal because by touching the points in the negative you have problems limiting revs on the accelerator??

Munro negative points if they are not touched anything does not mean that in order to act on the map the pedal you have to touch them try to make a map, even if you maybe yourself, you realize diquanto I told you

[mariodarkblue]

Ok..we're talking about air...maps pedal that are to addresses that do NOT EXIST and points in the map, and negative (that do not have maps of the pedals according to you) that modified damage error do not know why?...

[Backgroop]

here are the pictures:

5940

5941

[mariodarkblue]

The screen then those would be corrections diesel?then, given the conversion factors of the axes and of the map...and then map the pedal where would it be?

[infinityecu]

I can't see the screen for? that address ? valid I forgot to say with winols

[infinityecu]

here are the pictures:

5940

5941

With ecm, the map pedal if I'm not mistaken ? given by the torque limiter 2

[dvdtuning]

Maps foot pedal, and are those of the second screen in the first screen of munro ce n'? only a...

[munro]

I have not posted screen... however if you look at the maps in winols you realize that you do not have maps of the pedal, but the sw calls engine injection protection in F t cool....
and as a p? English I think I know it means protection injection engine as a function of engine temp(coolant)
then, and a torque limiter or a fuel injection diesel fuel, call it what you like as a function of engine temp.....
c'? also another limiter diesel-torque as a function of temp diesel....
the map of screen backgroop on the ecm of the Gp 75hp ? always map the pedal that I and Mario continiuamo to say that they are those of the screen posted by Mario....

[munro]

however, if you wish to remove doubts about what you call the maps pedal....just that in the axis where you think you see the percentage of pedal you convert the value in the axis 0,004 the conversion factor just to see the correct percentage and see what jumps out.....
if the accounts do not return... return to convert the same value to 0.5, and magically you will see the temperature in the axis....

[Backgroop]

Guys you must excuse Me but I correct myself, tonight by examining well the Damos I realized that I have the wrong map, the map the pedal and what you say, I am convinced why? uploading the file to a point 75hp on ecm gave me also maps diesel, I rimangio all that I said in the earlier posting the complete map and the conversion methods;

on the X-axis we have the turns as gi? said by you, displayed in real without applying conversions
on the y-axis we have the pedal Position % filtered with a conversion value of 0,004000
on the z-axis we have N*m ( cio? the couple that referred to the map TrqPropReqTOff ) conversion value 0,023438

the maps are the main and the similar as the knobs on the pedal are 2 (main and secondary)

[munro]

for me it's not ? nothing happened...quiet backgroop...the most important thing ? agree on the particolait? this ecu....
because gi? ? a p? tricky of his.....

[mariodarkblue]

hahahha okkk don't worry...luckily..the hell!!there I was losing the view:D
Anyway, why? there are those points in the negative? to "neutralize" the first % of the pedal at high speed?to favour the return to a minimum at high speed?

[Backgroop]

This is the map in question, as is represented in the damos:

5948

This and 3d:

5949

the values do not need to be read in contrast to the negative points, as it claims Munro serve to make a kind of cut-off in the release phase, I noticed that changing the drive remains slightly accelerated after a sgassata at full load

[mariodarkblue]

exactly...so..here is need to encourage the return to a minimum...but, so? for example, at 4500 rpm, not the avr? the request for the first couple of % of the pedal...

[munro]

very strange the fact that the maps pedal is not read to the contrary...
from the link sportknight, it is evident that both the torque limiters classic that the timing inj is read to the contrary...
therefore, logically speaking ? looking at the shape of the map from right to left, the shape is very similar to a DW of a edc16c......
to address the negative points...in the screen of the winols read: pedal position %(percentage) filtered/Nm...
I rest the idea that ? a correction in the map on its output....i.e. if, for example, the last break point ? 256nm(random numbers)
the ecu interpolates or better subtracts the negative value to a positive value for a correction....

[dvdtuning]

Murno you are right and I am confused why? it seemed to me your avatar...

[Backgroop]

exactly...so..here is need to encourage the return to a minimum...but, so? for example, at 4500 rpm, not the avr? the request for the first couple of % of the pedal...

Judging from the first appearance it seems that both cos?, but according to me comes into play well as the speed? of the car, in fact on the map says:
conversion method (Eng. Speed proc. - Copy of rpmf for TB task ,pedal Position % filtered)/ N*m

[munro]

Murno you are right and I am confused why? it seemed to me your avatar...
okay...it happens.....:)

[munro]

conversion metod (Eng. Speed proc. - Copy of rpmf for TB task
translated to large lines says: method conversion speed? engine proc(not a s? cos??) then he says copiadella function rpm for TB task...that I don't know what that means...

[Backgroop]

found the references
essentially, it is an array (vector) :
conversion metod (eng. speed procedures - f(RMP) * TB task , pedal position %) / N*m

eng. speed = procedures 0,39062
TB task = refers to a coefficient
value 0,2344 N*m / km/h
pedal position % = 100% on the map by 100,000000 for the conversion value 0,004000

[Backgroop]

clarified the map that ecm's called torque limiter 2 we can move on to what's called the torque limiter #2.
the map in question is located at the address 064A02 ? the map size 10x16 it is a limiter torque as a function of water temperature
on the x-axis we have the rpm rmp expressed in real value, without applying conversions
on the y-axis we have the water temperature expressed in degrees celsius degC or C? with a conversion value of 0,500000
on the z-axis we have the pair expressed in N*m, the conversion value of 0,023438

as the door winols table:

5951

as the door to the ecm 2d:

5952

[infinityecu]

clarified the map that ecm's called torque limiter 2 we can move on to what's called the torque limiter #2.
the map in question is located at the address 064A02 ? the map size 10x16 it is a limiter torque as a function of water temperature
on the x-axis we have the rpm rmp expressed in real value, without applying conversions
on the y-axis we have the water temperature expressed in degrees celsius degC or C? with a conversion value of 0,500000
on the z-axis we have the pair expressed in N*m, the conversion value of 0,023438



as the door winols table:

5951

as the door to the ecm 2d:

5952

Excuse me for a moment ecm titanium with torque limiter (2) refers to the map perdale therefore I at the beginning of the post I had said

[Backgroop]

Excuse me for a moment ecm titanium with torque limiter (2) refers to the map perdale therefore I at the beginning of the post I had said

We do not please unnecessary comments, read well, and it loads the map

[mariodarkblue]

exact, the third map that is encountered by iterating through the file ? a limtazione of torque as a function of T of the coolant.
Continuing on, you will find two maps torque Limiter#3 , these I believe are simple torque limiters, shall be read to the contrary?why? if should be read in the usual way, the peak torque ? at 2000 rpm...

[faberecu]

I made a mix of everything and created a personal database for map 3d ... now recognizes all the maps and also other files ... oriented in the correct direction , and are interested in anyone
just put it in the folder and go , to refine

here for info ask

[munro]

thanks for sharing faberecu.....
*mario those you mentioned are just 2 of the lim couple of 7 total...
the first lim torque out of the driver should be in the file posted 62C0C...

[faberecu]

update db file to give us a pay attention

[mariodarkblue]

Faberecu...very kind to share...with what do I open it map3d?

*munro...si, I know about the other limiters...I just wanted to look into it first? that ecm shows;) and understand if the pair lim read from s verso to d o..

[munro]

is the one posted by faberecu and the screen of map3d....
a nice little program... and according to me, even the lim torque should be read from left to right....

[mariodarkblue]

munro...then they are read as in the normal bosch....
sin that map3d I don't have one..and I don't know where to find it:( around I can't:(

[munro]

according to me you read it backwards....
we would like someone with a car for any test...
however, in the link of sportnight you divce that you read to the contrary of the bosch...
of the rest, as I have already said, if the foot pedal and the time you read dadx to the left, also the lim torque should be read in so...
for the 3d I can passartelo I....

[munro]

link deleted
I hope you see good....weight from the post linked from sportnight...

[mariodarkblue]

So...continuing our examination...then you come to the map ch ECM calls injection zoned map1...that should be rail pressure...
X=rpm
Y=IQ factor cnversione0.002941
z=prail in the bar (note the offset of 100bar)

Now, the map in question ? to the contrary...or that looking at 2d, each curve represents an arc of turns, for example, the last sar? of the 4688 rpm, but the iq of each point on the curve are reversed...this? from iq can be higher to decrease...? interesting to note how the rail pressure, have higher values of 20 bar for 30mm3 that for the next 45...who knows? why?...this I cannot explain...
Now, raising the press rail, it should be raised the limiter...where is????
I know of one in fboost to address 0674be
X=rpm
y=mbar boost
z=prail factor 7.51
the other that I know, and in ftemp to address 067a04
x=rpm
y=temp factor of 0.5 offset of 100
z=prail factor 1

now, there are other maps of limitation?the check bits, where are they?

[mariodarkblue]

*munro if I could passarmelo would you do me a big favour...I hope not breaking any rule...

[munro]

So...continuing our examination...then you come to the map ch ECM calls injection zoned map1...that should be rail pressure...
X=rpm
Y=IQ factor cnversione0.002941
z=prail in the bar (note the offset of 100bar)

Now, the map in question ? to the contrary...or that looking at 2d, each curve represents an arc of turns, for example, the last sar? of the 4688 rpm, but the iq of each point on the curve are reversed...this? from iq can be higher to decrease...? interesting to note how the rail pressure, have higher values of 20 bar for 30mm3 that for the next 45...who knows? why?...this I cannot explain...
Now, raising the press rail, it should be raised the limiter...where is????
I know of one in fboost to address 0674be
X=rpm
y=mbar boost
z=prail factor 7.51
the other that I know, and in ftemp to address 067a04
x=rpm
y=temp factor of 0.5 offset of 100
z=prail factor 1

now, there are other maps of limitation?the check bits, where are they?
heheh....now that you are beginning to be seriously....
pity that for? on the forum we have a guru on these ecu's but so far it's not if seen...
and I think never will see? to dispense a p? of his knowledge.....
I understand....but I agree with....
*mario's time f? we exchanged via PM you have not saved any way of tracking?
if you do not break the regulation could you give me your skype name that you add between the contacts....
(mmhh...I smell bann....let's hope not...)

[mariodarkblue]

heheh....now that you are beginning to be seriously....
pity that for? on the forum we have a guru on these ecu's but so far it's not if seen...
and I think never will see? to dispense a p? of his knowledge.....
I understand....but I agree with....
*mario's time f? we exchanged via PM you have not saved any way of tracking?
if you do not break the regulation could you give me your skype name that you add between the contacts....
(mmhh...I smell bann....let's hope not...)

ahhaha and we hope that we do not ban...to the limit just a reminder...
unfortunately, with respect to the rail I have no other info:( hopefully, who knows...we help:D

[giary74]

I have to say that I have available, that famous English manual of which you spoke earlier... those who want to, if we violate any rule, just that I ask.
For now, I'm just "listening" your discourses since? are still a minor. However, I am given to do and, after several attempts, I found a map that has the same addresses to which you refer...
There are enough, but I don't understand what you mean by the offset -100 in RAIL pressure.
Could someone enlighten me?

[mariodarkblue]

Hello...you are a minor..but nick strange..;) anyway...offset-100 means that the value that you see in the map you need to remove 100bar to have real value;)

[munro]

before I go any further I would like to reflect on the egr map(so you can dissect all the maps known), and the relative switch-off to disable all the controls and related DTC...
the url 067C4A found "switch" with the decimal value of 14252 to "turn off" everything just bring that value to 47506...
the map the egr is located at the address 067CAC ? a 16x16 in X-axis there are the rpm on the Y axis and the Z I are unknown...

[sportknight]

I can give you an advice? every so often recapitulated all the maps,cos? make no mistake and you will have all the framework of the situazioe an eye..

[leandro89]

Contact Skype cos? like facebook etc you can? trade only in the discussion of buying and selling.

[leandro89]

link deleted
I hope you see good....weight from the post linked from sportnight...

Using the mode? advanced to attach files

[mariodarkblue]

ok, no contact;) cmq yes the s egr Correct..as for the"axes & quot; of the egr map..not there conosco..ma I think ke ? sufficient sitch

[Backgroop]

So...continuing our examination...then you come to the map ch ECM calls injection zoned map1...that should be rail pressure...
X=rpm
Y=IQ factor cnversione0.002941
z=prail in the bar (note the offset of 100bar)

Now, the map in question ? to the contrary...or that looking at 2d, each curve represents an arc of turns, for example, the last sar? of the 4688 rpm, but the iq of each point on the curve are reversed...this? from iq can be higher to decrease...? interesting to note how the rail pressure, have higher values of 20 bar for 30mm3 that for the next 45...who knows? why?...this I cannot explain...
Now, raising the press rail, it should be raised the limiter...where is????
I know of one in fboost to address 0674be
X=rpm
y=mbar boost
z=prail factor 7.51
the other that I know, and in ftemp to address 067a04
x=rpm
y=temp factor of 0.5 offset of 100
z=prail factor 1

now, there are other maps of limitation?the check bits, where are they?

Guys the map injection zoned as it is called in the ecm ? a map 16x24, ? a map that is called in the real world? main injection as a photo:

5966

the X-axis indicates the pressure ( rail Pressure engineering and filtered ) measured in Bar conversion factor 2,000000
the y-axis indicates the QI ( also called the map Qmain ) measured in mm3/str conversion factor 0,002930
the Z-axis indicates the time, expressed in us ( microseconds ) without conversion

the arrey of the map ? conversion method ( Pressure rail engineering and filtered , Qmain ) /uS

[munro]

I wanted to buy the tool dvdtuning....:)

[Backgroop]

photos map main Injection or partial grid and 3D:

5967

5968

[munro]

look carefully at the file backgrop...
the map indicated to be mario ? actually the map rail, and ? a 16x16....
ecm calls iniez zoned map1...
the map times the ecm calls iniez zoned(1) and the one 16X24..

[mariodarkblue]

I'm back..
backgroop one thing at a time..we are still at the rail and its limiters...that we have explained where they are...they lack the protection bit...you know to help?
that indicated to you ? the last map that the ecm shows and injection time

[sportknight]

anyway I seem to remember that the limiters of the rail were quite high,therefore also raising 5% of the rail(over which you do not ? allowed to go) do not have problems,I can tell you from personal experience,that's why? in the other discussion, I had never put them out

[mariodarkblue]

anyway I seem to remember that the limiters of the rail were quite high,therefore also raising 5% of the rail(over which you do not ? allowed to go) do not have problems,I can tell you from personal experience,that's why? in the other discussion, I had never put them out

uhm...why? you say that is not ? allowed to go beyond the 5%?then honestly, I do not like to use the %...I prefer to give increases to points...

[sportknight]

sorry, I meant not ? indicated: D

anyway if you are happy with the percentages we go with the points...80 - 100,it should be better? :D

the pumps are delicate then ? better not climb too...

[mariodarkblue]

sorry, I meant not ? indicated: D

anyway if you are happy with the percentages we go with the points...80 - 100,it should be better? :D

the pumps are delicate then ? better not climb too...

Uhm...look...I have already? tried it in points..putting the two limiters indicated to the team and going up to only 50 bar...it fails...then c'? some bit somewhere...

[sportknight]

mmm,strange, why? I made a dozen...

[mariodarkblue]

mmm,strange, why? I made a dozen...

unfortunately, I tried on a pair...and they go faulty...c'? ki says that c'? a sort of block in 1480, and who says that there are bit to move...

[sportknight]

tonight we do a look

[faberecu]

Found the map interesting ... management fuel/ air ???

[Backgroop]

Found the map interesting ... management fuel/ air ???
Hello I don't understand in which file you found this map, the file is put under scrutiny ? a Lancia ypsilon 1.3 mjet 70cv, which starts at 0x000000 and ends at 0x06FFFF, your address as shown in the picture ? 085e9c??

[faberecu]

the usual

[Backgroop]

the usual

Specifies the better??

[faberecu]

now I ofsettato with your sorry... it was the file of the discussion where it has the link in this

[munro]

backgoop looks good, the screen...
the address 16bit and 42F4E....
*faberecu...thanks for the tip...

[Backgroop]

now I ofsettato with your sorry... it was the file of the discussion where it has the link in this
here we are talking about something else ? was put under review a file of a lancia y 70cv, and there is discussion of the maps in this file, no confusion, no please gi? are the ecu is not easy to understand.. we talk about the topic concerned, we will come to deal with the other versions of the 1.3 mjet 75, 90 with due time


backgoop looks good, the screen...
the address 16bit and 42F4E....
*faberecu...thanks for the tip...
munro check with the address on file and you will see that either 8-or 16 you don't find the map

[munro]

ok..ok...small oversight I read just now that faberecu a tried and posted a map of the file to that post linked here....
excuse me...

[faberecu]

we can summarize , addresses, and function maybe a small table with a conversion factor , I'm doing the personal database on map3d with guidelines and correct values , then the place for all
just put it in the folder of the map c'mon

[mariodarkblue]

we can summarize , addresses, and function maybe a small table with a conversion factor , I'm doing the personal database on map3d with guidelines and correct values , then the place for all
just put it in the folder of the map c'mon
If you have the patience I think;)

[faberecu]

you can give a pay attention to addresses ?

[faberecu]

screem with related ... forgot to open
are to verify

[mariodarkblue]

faber..I saw the screen, but this pc I don't have the programs to open the map...but what do you mean by "mirror"??do you mean that they are maps with reverse dilettura?

[faberecu]

views of the mirror ...

[Backgroop]

screem with related ... forgot to open
are to verify
This one from you ? the injection split Map1 as it is called in the ecm already? spoken in the previous post is located at the address 0675be


you can give a pay attention to addresses ?
The address 64a02 ? a torque limiter as a function of temperature is not the center with the foot pedal in the screen earlier made by me with winols c'? the description and conversion

[faberecu]

ok correct the name.. it was what I meant anyway
but the rai and the limiters match ??

[Backgroop]

ok correct the name.. it was what I meant anyway
but the rai and the limiters match ??

Map Rail Pressure that Ecm calls injection choked map1 16x16 and is located at the address 0675BE
While the "limiter rail and immediately after" is located at the address 067946 as in the photos, a map 8x8
5985

[sa80libero]

pity we can't see the attachments would also be useful to me to study this type of ecu....

[Danny]

Ok for the limiter rail, but there must be some other thing. While raising the "ladder", not salt the maximum pressure, in addition to the 1480 bar, it's enough if you stay with the pmpa rail ori, but they are not enough if you want to go further with the processing. If you took the pump 90, turn 1600bar quietly of the series, but I couldn't get there.
I browsed through both files to compare, 75, and 90, and c'? a bit different, that in the 75 ? set to 775, and in the 90 to 900, it seems to me...Tried to edit, you can climb for a moment the pressure, and then turn off the machine for damage....
Ah, the bit ? the first map rail...

[faberecu]

but if you look at annex l of the schemata map 3d, I found two possible limiter
also a rail pressure in the clear 1460 bar ... maybe there are addresses

[mariodarkblue]

the first map I think I also is rail...the other I do not know:(

[voglioimparare]

but if you look at annex l of the schemata map 3d, I found two possible limiter
also a rail pressure in the clear 1460 bar ... maybe there are addresses

the pressure limiter rail max and right.raising the bit moves to the limitation;)

[mariodarkblue]

the pressure limiter rail max and right.raising the bit moves to the limitation;)

to which are you referring to?

[Backgroop]

but if you look at annex l of the schemata map 3d, I found two possible limiter
also a rail pressure in the clear 1460 bar ... maybe there are addresses
Guys someone to do a test c'??? serves a point, lancia y, or idea 70cv to test the map in question

[munro]

the maps posted by faberecu look like much on the map egr....
*faberecu...those addresses in the screen correspond always to the file ypsilon 70cv of the first post??

[Backgroop]

the maps posted by faberecu look like much on the map egr....
*faberecu...those addresses in the screen correspond always to the file ypsilon 70cv of the first post??
hello munro I checked in I the file with the addresses posted by faberecu in fact, from the values that would appear to be a management rail or limiter, I can not find other references to it, but we can test the map is located prior to the injection parzializato 24x16

[Danny]

I might try on a swift 69cv....
And pi? next on my 75hp.....

[munro]

hello munro I checked in I the file with the addresses posted by faberecu in fact, from the values that would appear to be a management rail or limiter, I can not find other references to it, but we can test the map is located prior to the injection parzializato 24x16
Thanks Backgroop and Danny....this ? in the right spirit...

[Danny]

I make myself available for tutto...Se you want, place also the file of the 69, provimo only l modification to the rail, and load it on the S. When rimonter? mine, we will try how it works in 75, if in the meantime there is not? no one else I could have tried :)

[mariodarkblue]

I make myself available for tutto...Se you want, place also the file of the 69, provimo only l modification to the rail, and load it on the S. When rimonter? mine, we will try how it works in 75, if in the meantime there is not? no one else I could have tried :)

I unfortunately cannot try it...xk? they have mounted all of 90hp!!pump, flute, and injectors!!!

[Danny]

Nothing changes, if the ecu will not unlock the limit, there is not anything Mario! Can I mount a pump that holds 3000 bar, but from the ecu, on the 69/75, you're always stop to 1460bar if you do not touch I'm a bit( and, many say, is only a bit)

[munro]

danny..try moddare that bit indicated by Faberecu.....

[Danny]

Here c'? the ori guys, I found the bit to which it refers. The file ORI, we touch ONLY the Rail that the load by tomorrow. I am currently under the blankets influenced to the maximum.
Ah, you write the address touched! :)

[Backgroop]

Nothing changes, if the ecu will not unlock the limit, there is not anything Mario! Can I mount a pump that holds 3000 bar, but from the ecu, on the 69/75, you're always stop to 1460bar if you do not touch I'm a bit( and, many say, is only a bit)
For the 75hp and another thing, I tried on a few, I posted the solution, and is located in the area off-limits to the problem and for the 70cv..

[mariodarkblue]

For the 75hp and another thing, I tried on a few, I posted the solution, and is located in the area off-limits to the problem and for the 70cv..

We know that you have been kind enough to share...and that someone thought to put it in the no-fly zone;)

[infinityecu]

Nothing changes, if the ecu will not unlock the limit, there is not anything Mario! Can I mount a pump that holds 3000 bar, but from the ecu, on the 69/75, you're always stop to 1460bar if you do not touch I'm a bit( and, many say, is only a bit)

Try these 2 bits on them and let me know 0675BE and 067A06

[Danny]

For the 75hp and another thing, I tried on a few, I posted the solution, and is located in the area off-limits to the problem and for the 70cv..

Maybe you don't know...but the xk? ? finished in off-limits?!?

[giary74]

Guys someone to do a test c'??? serves a point, lancia y, or idea 70cv to test the map in question

I have a lancia ypsilon 70cv and I can do all the experiments that I want to, but I don't understand how I have to change the bits mentioned above.
The file ori ? this:

[Backgroop]

6005


Here c'? the ori guys, I found the bit to which it refers. The file ORI, we touch ONLY the Rail that the load by tomorrow. I am currently under the blankets influenced to the maximum.
Ah, you write the address touched! :)

Hello Danny, I just checked your file from the map here, and totally different from that of the lancia y, the address found by faberecu not ? the limiter rail pressure alleged here are the images in the file address ? 624d2

6007


I have a lancia ypsilon 70cv and I can do all the experiments that I want to, but I don't understand how I have to change the bits mentioned above.
The ori file ? this: 6006

thanks giary74 for your helpfulness? but you have not yet met the requirements needed to download from the forum

[giary74]

I don't yet, but you...
you tell me how I have to do, and I do:p

[infinityecu]

Someone tried to change the bits from me mentioned a few posts back ??? Or 0675BE and 067A06 .Fatemi know

[sportknight]

sorry guys,I had the time to read the whole discussion but I can not explain one thing,why not c'? no one that sums up the whole?
another thing..have you tried to read the discussion that I had opened a long time ago???

you have done 12 pages of discussion to get to less than half? what I had wrote it myself,why? don't try to take a cue?

[mariodarkblue]

sorry guys,I had the time to read the whole discussion but I can not explain one thing,why not c'? no one that sums up the whole?
another thing..have you tried to read the discussion that I had opened a long time ago???

you have done 12 pages of discussion to get to less than half? what I had wrote it myself,why? don't try to take a cue?

Hello..here is the summary

[mariodarkblue]

Ah, it is obviously lacking in the limiters rail, from the moment that we are not sure...

[sportknight]

the rail limiter ? the one after the rail map you have indicated ;)

[mariodarkblue]

the rail limiter ? the one after the rail map you have indicated ;)

there are two...one before and one after...but even raising those...the prex is not salt..c'? some other bit or block software...I seem to have indicated two bits from the tap..and we are waiting for the test...

[mariodarkblue]

It was made that test x to see the rail??

[Backgroop]

It was made that test x to see the rail??
The test I made this morning on a panda, but the result ? negative, it is not the map of the Rail changes from version to version..

[mariodarkblue]

The test I made this morning on a panda, but the result ? negative, it is not the map of the Rail changes from version to version..

uhm...nice scab...now it gets complicated..they told me ke also raising the map rail and the two lim we have found, the rail does not salt...and c'? another to unlock..

[Backgroop]

uhm...nice scab...now it gets complicated..they told me ke also raising the map rail and the two lim we have found, the rail does not salt...and c'? another to unlock..
there is a bit change on the map, in the versions 75hp and 90hp (with DPF and do not, it is called "Rail pressure threshold for torque limitation" is not ? in the clear on the map you have to multiply it by the conversion ratio, precisely in order to 4,427083333333333

[mariodarkblue]

there is a bit change on the map, in the versions 75hp and 90hp (with DPF and do not, it is called "Rail pressure threshold for torque limitation" is not ? in the clear on the map you have to multiply it by the conversion ratio, precisely in order to 4,427083333333333

it seems to me that for the 75 and 90 the speech ? different..and munro had posted the solution...the "block" that I have heard ? on the 70cv

[Backgroop]

it seems to me that for the 75 and 90 the speech ? different..and munro had posted the solution...the "block" that I have heard ? on the 70cv
the solution I posted and I is Off-limits, for the 70cv and the same thing, I have a damos 70cv but ? damaged but searching for the name of the map open it with the notepad ( Rail pressure threshold for torque limitation), finds but I don't know which address is located..

[sportknight]

The 75 and the 90's do not have the lock, tested

[mariodarkblue]

The 75 and the 90's do not have the lock, tested

Great..so you have to find the block only about 70...

[Backgroop]

The 75 and the 90's do not have the lock, tested

here is the block of 75 90hp

on Damos 2d view
6019

on Damos tabular view with map reference
6020

[sportknight]

S? but being as high as the limit does not send the drive in recovery cine on the 70, I wanted to say this

It might serve only if you want to exceed 1700 bar.... I would not pump standard

[infinityecu]

Great..so you have to find the block only about 70...

It would not make sense to increase the rail pressure pi? of 1550/1600 bar just because? the original pump could leave the country and still addresses that I have given you someone else has them tested?

[Backgroop]

It would not make sense to increase the rail pressure pi? of 1550/1600 bar just because? the original pump could leave the country and still addresses that I have given you someone else has them tested?
hello infinityecu I tried them this morning on a panda 70cv but should not be, are bits that handle the lambda sensor, malfunction indicator light error in diagnosis..

[infinityecu]

hello infinityecu I tried them this morning on a panda 70cv but should not be, are bits that handle the lambda sensor, malfunction indicator light error in diagnosis..

I knew that the rail limiters were also pech? when I mappoi do not touch it ever, the rail cars go can go strong the same by avoiding trouble :-)

[mariodarkblue]

Infinity...se one is limited to a soft map si..ma farle make them go STRONG and maybe with other turbines, it takes diesel and only increasing the times you have ferries...:) here isk we need to raise the rail...

[Ela.Toretto]

or would it be enough to mount the high pump pre della m cv 90 hp to be able to increase the pressure without too much fear for reliability?... getting less smoke? how much is pi injected? but in more times? and thus giving way to the diesel to burn;) however I am following this topic very carefully even if I still do not reach 80 messages and therefore I do not see the attachments ;)

[Danny]

Ok to mount the pump 90, but if you do not unlock from the ecu, do not climb over 1460...

[Ela.Toretto]

I was just talking about reliability? ;) about the limit I know less than you but I'm hungry for knowledge :)

[carbo92]

Boys with regards to cash advances, you are able to find something?

[mariodarkblue]

Boys with regards to cash advances, you are able to find something?

Guys let's turn to the speech...we are still at the rail...I'm studying..I know that c'? a block 1430bar...but can't find it...

[Backgroop]

Guys I may have found the bit of restriction, and by test I don't have a car available, however, is located at the address 0602E2 with a value of hex 0323 multiplied by the conversion value 4,427083333333333 from 1429,94 cio? 1430 bar

[mariodarkblue]

Guys I may have found the bit of restriction, and by test I don't have a car available, however, is located at the address 0602E2 with a value of hex 0323 multiplied by the conversion value 4,427083333333333 from 1429,94 cio? 1430 bar


Are you sure?at that address on the file posted at the beginning of the post, I find a map...
I am attaching a screen
6070

[voglioimparare]

I spoke with a guy that the cone sce very well lemarelli and has indicated to me that the limiter rail and after the map pressionerail and clear 8-bit...I follow the developments anyway guys! I try with a stroke, 70 hp mjet in the meantime..;)

[Backgroop]

honestly, I do not seems to be a map, and to verify, on the 75hp and 90hp bit is located in the initial part of the map

6071

[voglioimparare]

honestly, I do not seems to be a map, and to verify, on the 75hp and 90hp bit is located in the initial part of the map

6071


are you referring to my post? I don't understand;)

[Backgroop]

are you referring to my post? I don't understand;)
no, I'm not referring to your post

[Danny]

Back, do you have any screen of the bit that limits the 75/90 hp?

[Backgroop]

Back, do you have any screen of the bit that limits the 75/90 hp?
Hello Danny I have them Already? published in this thread, and check and see that you find them, you could do some test on your opel??
you prepare a test map and the place, you could try it??

[Danny]

Back, do you have any screen of the bit that limits the 75/90 hp?

Sorry for the double post....! Cooomunque, I have a Suzuki 1.3 DDiS, I can make tests as soon as I put it away in the bike, no problems. But we are talking about a 75 hp. The screen for the 75-dov'

[mariodarkblue]

Hi guys, I have tried the bit indicated by the back..nothing...it doesn't work...yet I have made two maps team referred to as the lim rail in the previous post...even that bit, but nothing...always error on the rail...

[Backgroop]

Hi guys, I have tried the bit indicated by the back..nothing...it doesn't work...yet I have made two maps team referred to as the lim rail in the previous post...even that bit, but nothing...always error on the rail...

then, this was not a bit limiting.. you have to if the fact of the log of the ecu? the precise pressure to what is limited?

[Danny]

To me, it seems to me you stop to 1460 bar, but no error.

[tezzero]

Ok to mount the pump 90, but if you do not unlock from the ecu, do not climb over 1460...
The pumps C R
ail push all of them without problems around 2000 bar the pump used on the bosch or are 6.5 or 7mm with variation of the air flow diesel at the same time the injection is not excessive

[mariodarkblue]

The pumps C R
ail push all of them without problems around 2000 bar the pump used on the bosch or are 6.5 or 7mm with variation of the air flow diesel at the same time the injection is not excessive

The problem ? find the unlock in map...;)

[Backgroop]

name deleted me on skype

[tezzero]

They are not very well versed on these marellii...I can give my contribution on the performance of the plant,injection

[mariodarkblue]

name deleted me on skype

And how do I do that?

[Backgroop]

And how do I do that?

in my profile c'? my contact, or under the profile picture.. I found a damos of the 70cv

[mariodarkblue]

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[leandro89]

name deleted me on skype

private contacts are prohibited by the regulation, I can only be entered in the section for the sale and purchase

[mariodarkblue]

private contacts are prohibited by the regulation, I can only be entered in the section for the sale and purchase

Sorry:)
anyway..let's continue...
so I took those tests and did not lead to anything good...some friend more said that the lim ? in the clear 8..immediately after the map rail..I'm looking..and ancheusando conversion factors I can not find anything that we like...

[Backgroop]

Sorry:)
anyway..let's continue...
so I took those tests and did not lead to anything good...some friend more said that the lim ? in the clear 8..immediately after the map rail..I'm looking..and ancheusando conversion factors I can not find anything that we like...

The limiter is the pressure at which it enters the function, I don't or a car for evidence at the time. you know exactly??

[mariodarkblue]

look...I made the test: raised rail of 100 bar (1,600 in tabular form as c'?offset 100bar), the two limiters indicated in 1650 to the team...no, not the salt over 1400!!!

[Backgroop]

look...I made the test: raised rail of 100 bar (1,600 in tabular form as c'?offset 100bar), the two limiters indicated in 1650 to the team...no, not the salt over 1400!!!

then the limitation ? to 1400bar precise and round, round??

[mariodarkblue]

then the limitation ? to 1400bar precise and round, round??

sometimes salt, a wire, but returns immediately to 1,400!!!the cursed!

[sportknight]

yesterday I was looking at some this ecu is completely different from those in the 75 and the 90's,I noticed first of all that the conversion factors
one of the rail ? 1,but I was wondering, and if the limiter had not as limiter 1? not we'd go ever..

[Danny]

In the file of swift posted, the rail size to 1460 boys. And the file ? different....Despite being marelli, I know that you don't enter na jot!

[sportknight]

It seems to me that you do not read what I write. .... :p

[Danny]

S? but being as high as the limit does not send the drive in recovery cine on the 70, I wanted to say this

It might serve only if you want to exceed 1700 bar.... I would not pump standard


But xk? then I can't go over the 1460 bar? Riecso to increase the rail to the medium, but not to tall...I Speak of a Swift, and with the 75hp.

[mariodarkblue]

But xk? then I can't go over the 1460 bar? Riecso to increase the rail to the medium, but not to tall...I Speak of a Swift, and with the 75hp.

uhm...watch it seems to me that the swift has the same stuff 70cv...cmq, c'? definitely a block somewhere...but, who knows does not speak...

[Danny]

Of course am lucky it goes! :) I start going through the file gp 75 in comparison with that of my....Let's see if there cable something different :confused:

[Danny]

Swift again, guys, to find out what limits the rail to 1460 on the 75hp......!

[Danny]

honestly, I do not seems to be a map, and to verify, on the 75hp and 90hp bit is located in the initial part of the map

6071



Back, to enlighten me? In the screen you posted for the 75hp and their limits, and I do not see the area of the map rail..here you say is right before...can you give me a screen please?

[Backgroop]

Back, to enlighten me? In the screen you posted for the 75hp and their limits, and I do not see the area of the map rail..here you say is right before...can you give me a screen please?
Sn already? posted of the screen relative to the 75 and 90hp

[Danny]

But in the screen, between 75 and 90 does not change anything. I have the 75 and I will stop, however, at 1460

[Ela.Toretto]

but you have made, the variation of the famous bit?

[michele30]

raga I have a problem with the turbo of this car, I climb a hair above the threshold of 2500 mbar, and then go in recoveri, should I review the turbo but since ? my I am looking for the restrictor of the turbo, to raise a pochinio c'? no one that knows where it is?

[tidus1985]

bella is the discussion not the I had view!!! I had arrived at a good point on a gp 90hp, but ? a map is not as simple as the bosch, just to understand the map times as it was the mass I've lost an hour!!! still I remain doubtful the way to remove the dpf from this car

[Backgroop]

bella is the discussion not the I had view!!! I had arrived at a good point on a gp 90hp, but ? a map is not as simple as the bosch, just to understand the map times as it was the mass I've lost an hour!!! still I remain doubtful the way to remove the dpf from this car
The removal of the dpf does not ? a simple thing and it changes from map to map and version to version, once you get the hand you is easy

[Danny]

but you have made, the variation of the famous bit?



I did not understand what would be the bit, xk? do you say that ? in the area of the map Rail, and a screen posted by the good Backgroop, in my corresponds exactly to that of the 90 (1600 series), and then c'? some other thing....

[Ela.Toretto]

put 900 ?

[Danny]

But what are we talking about? The first one of the map rail, which in the 75 is going to 755, and 90 is 900?
Made the test, and as soon as I arrive at 4000 rpm it cuts the recovery...

[Ela.Toretto]

just what, strange it should work...

but from diagnosis to how many bars arrivals?

[Danny]

Wait, you up the pressure by changing that bit?
And to me why? heck cut then?
Several times, I can read for seconds, 1500, and then cut...
Tomorrow I try again!

[ecuboost]

hello, I have a map with the addresses on which we have studied, such as an address limiter prex rail I see 4 addresses(4 bits), pu? be here the key to the reading? or it can be 4 bits from mod to move qst blessed pressure? how do I check there?? I have tried with the conversion factor, but or do not know to use, or is not...

[Danny]

you have to provrla.
If you do not have the avettura available, you can? try to look up addresses in a map that you have to try and do a log on the march....
E-mail, maybe some screen

[ecuboost]

how can I attach them so that they do not see small?

[mariodarkblue]

how can I attach them so that they do not see small?

Hello, I make a screen and attach it:) or you can attach only the map...put it all golds (if you don't want to see the majority of the finds), and let the 4 points that you think are the rail;)

[ecuboost]

because every time you place a screen you can see tiny, I attach ori and txt files with the addresses...do not attach the mod why? are jealous(why? according to me in a post of qst there should be no jealousy, then one does not cooperate), but pu? dry who did it. of course, let me know if you are right, I am the machine I tried it and now I can't try...

[mariodarkblue]

Hello, I can confirm that your addresses are all right..but none of these makes up the pressure on the rail!

[ecuboost]

ok, I tried...but none that reveals him to be...? a bit doesn't it ? a treasure....

[mariodarkblue]

ok, I tried...but none that reveals him to be...? a bit doesn't it ? a treasure....

Gi?...I have done a thousand tests...and I can't find it:/

[Danny]

Ditto I....Anyway, someone has revealed how to do it, c'? state(Backgroop)...But the guide ? been moved in the area OFF-LIMITS, where us the common we do not have access....

[elettro72]

I don't know if I can be useful for the file that has posted ecuboost.........map rail 6967A on the basis you have rpm and iq........limiter rail 6957A factor x 7.5...... limiter rail in the base you have rpm and the temperature of the fuel 69AC2

[ecuboost]

I don't know if I can be useful for the file that has posted ecuboost.........map rail 6967A on the basis you have rpm and iq........limiter rail 6957A factor x 7.5...... limiter rail in the base you have rpm and the temperature of the fuel 69AC2

with these addresses should climb the pres rail?

[ecuboost]

Ditto I....Anyway, someone has revealed how to do it, c'? state(Backgroop)...But the guide ? been moved in the area OFF-LIMITS, where us the common we do not have access....
sorry for the off-topic:
premising that in qst forum there are qst rules, then those who want to stay there, I know that no one has asked me my opinion? here, it seems to me that he is running that there are the "top" leaving "workers" to slam into the head, then when you get to something concrete you move the result in offlimits, seeing often the person who has contributed in the section offlimits, be deleted from the section.
said there? I close the off-topic.

[Backgroop]

Ditto I....Anyway, someone has revealed how to do it, c'? state(Backgroop)...But the guide ? been moved in the area OFF-LIMITS, where us the common we do not have access....
Guys do not leave out the schema, I have posted the solution for the marelli 75 and 90 hp file 2mb ( if you pay attention first to write I mentioned as well on this post the solution with related pictures posted), here we're looking at a file of the lancia y 1.3 mjet 70cv from 448kb marelli 6jf, I also, like you, I'm banging.. let's go for degrees without off-topic and other

[dvdtuning]

Discussion ? very constructive, and it has nothing to do with the area off-limits to the ask the admin...I'm doing a lot of tests, I also without the need to write in the discussion why? I very much appreciate the solution backgroop posted.

[Danny]

No No mine is not a comment aimed at the Back, but only to the fact that the "guide" ? been moved...
Regarding the solution, I do not understand why? I do not work...

[dvdtuning]

I am from a log done on g.point 90 cv arrive safely to 1680bar...

[Danny]

Eh, but on GP90cv...The problem ? it will climb in 69/75.

[Backgroop]

I Found the bit that limits the pressure rail on the 70cv!!

search the ESA strings 00e1 0226 00af 0307

00e1 = Rail Press. Gov. - zR06: Rail pressure reference lower bound
0226 = Rail Press. Gov. - zR06: Rail pressure reference upper bound
00af = Rail Press. Gov. - Rail pressure gradient upper limitation
0307 = Rail Press. Gov. - PrailRef maximum limitation value

our bit ? 0307 converted to decimal 775 for the conversion value 2,000000 x (Eprom), Offset -100
result 775 x 2 = 1550 - 100 = 1450 bar

6329

[ecuboost]

I Found the bit that limits the pressure rail on the 70cv!!

search the ESA strings 00e1 0226 00af 0307

00e1 = Rail Press. Gov. - zR06: Rail pressure reference lower bound
0226 = Rail Press. Gov. - zR06: Rail pressure reference upper bound
00af = Rail Press. Gov. - Rail pressure gradient upper limitation
0307 = Rail Press. Gov. - PrailRef maximum limitation value

our bit ? 0307 converted to decimal 775 for the conversion value 2,000000 x (Eprom), Offset -100
result 775 x 2 = 1550 - 100 = 1450 bar

6329
congratulations....thanks for sharing

for many dir? obvious, but I agree with who ? less experienced, in qst auto ir? other ? useful round up of the torque limiters...

[dvdtuning]

I Found the bit that limits the pressure rail on the 70cv!!

search the ESA strings 00e1 0226 00af 0307

00e1 = Rail Press. Gov. - zR06: Rail pressure reference lower bound
0226 = Rail Press. Gov. - zR06: Rail pressure reference upper bound
00af = Rail Press. Gov. - Rail pressure gradient upper limitation
0307 = Rail Press. Gov. - PrailRef maximum limitation value

our bit ? 0307 converted to decimal 775 for the conversion value 2,000000 x (Eprom), Offset -100
result 775 x 2 = 1550 - 100 = 1450 bar

6329

Great, I almost want to leave...

[ecuboost]

I take the effort to summarize all the post, so as to leave something really useful, tomorrow afternoon that avr? pi? time sistemer? a txt file with all the summary and the attached.

[Danny]

Back, but have you tried?
I'm 775 ? also present in my 75 hp, but as soon as I get up, turn off the machine with a faulty rail pressure. If you let up on the accelerator, it makes me piccare less pressure, but if you get up, turn off the engine...

[Backgroop]

Back, but have you tried?
I'm 775 ? also present in my 75 hp, but as soon as I get up, turn off the machine with a faulty rail pressure. If you let up on the accelerator, it makes me piccare less pressure, but if you get up, turn off the engine...

You need to change along with the associated lilimatori, with care otherwise not solve anything

[Danny]

Try again, see if it works also on suzuki/opel 75hp.

[Backgroop]

Try again, see if it works also on suzuki/opel 75hp.

Tried on point 70cv,goes a splinter!! the opel is spoken of file by 2mb the bit that is being changed ? only this, I believe, are two (I think I have to check check your file), try to change all the limiters rail Pressure follow the post ? you will understand, and by three months there, I throw in supra losing hours and hours to do tests was becoming a nightmare, if you don't use logic to get there, I managed to extract the names of the bits in the rebuilding of a damos marelli 6jf violated, m not addresses, to find the bits and try it I left the log with the examiner in order to understand when the pressure was limited and how much..

[Danny]

Try to give a look, the bit at 775 ? the same also in the 75 in my Swift, pi? back to find the attachment.
I tried to lower it, and in fact it limited before. Moved to? even at 776, he turns off the car. Unfortunately, I have been following it for months :( But I have not yet got there.
Ps my file ? 2.5 mb

[Backgroop]

Try to give a look, the bit at 775 ? the same also in the 75 in my Swift, pi? back to find the attachment.
I tried to lower it, and in fact it limited before. Moved to? even at 776, he turns off the car. Unfortunately, I have been following it for months :( But I have not yet got there.
Ps my file ? 2.5 mb

the attached file you were previously, and a swift 70cv 448kb as written by you belongs to your friend, attach your files, I want to check

[Danny]

You're right, I thought I had loaded my. I apologize...
And here it is. You will find the first of the map rail (10F4C0 ) A curve similar to that in 69 ? the lim rail in relation to the turbo pressure, and immediately before that, the bit(10F3F0 I don't have ecm on this pc, it should be him?)

[Backgroop]

You're right, I thought I had loaded my. I apologize...
And here it is. You will find the first of the map rail (10F4C0 ) A curve similar to that in 69 ? the lim rail in relation to the turbo pressure, and immediately before that, the bit(10F3F0 I don't have ecm on this pc, it should be him?)
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Very interesting map, would seem to be a mixture between 70 and 75 fiat, in fact, after a bit of restriction maps of the rail, also present on the new marelli mjt8 this ecu deserves a study belonging to the

[Danny]

It is very similar to the file of a mjet75 Great point, however, the rail pressure, from what I've read, the salt without problems here...no.


Let's open a topic dedicated? I think that the opel are the same....

[Ela.Toretto]

I would like to participate in this discussion for? I am a novello and the attachments I can not see them (so I do not know what you talk about unfortunately, it would be nice if the admin revised this rule, mind you I do not say to give the possibility? download to gog? but only to see the screens to be able to try to answer with knowledge of the facts;)) I only know the famous bit 775 for? from what I read not ? he: (

[Backgroop]

I would like to participate in this discussion for? I am a novello and the attachments I can not see them (so I do not know what you talk about unfortunately, it would be nice if the admin revised this rule, mind you I do not say to give the possibility? download to gog? but only to see the screens to be able to try to answer with knowledge of the facts;)) I only know the famous bit 775 for? from what I read not ? he: (

The bit ? just what gi? tested on point 70 hp goes a splinter, this is only true for the 70cv for the other versions of the bit from the change ? another, attention must also change the maps of the rail and its limiters, otherwise the avr? failure.

[Ela.Toretto]

ah, then, applies only to the 70cv? and for us 75? what's the value? ;)

[ecuboost]

as promised, if I have forgotten something, or am I doing something wrong, put it out and the riallegate...

[tidus1985]

guys.... then c'? also who says"because no one helps me"..... If you do not learn about qyesto forum, tell me where you learn!!!
Ecuboost a thank you for your work to bring everything back to txt file + really had to

[Danny]

Great Ecuboost! :)


Now, however, I nua question beautiful and good.
Limiter settings, where are you?
Something that restricts c'? in the 75 hp, before injection choked. But limits, if I wanted to go over the 5300, not salt. C'? then a certain other thing....Someone knows something?

[Backgroop]

Great Ecuboost! :)


Now, however, I nua question beautiful and good.
Limiter settings, where are you?
Something that restricts c'? in the 75 hp, before injection choked. But limits, if I wanted to go over the 5300, not salt. C'? then a certain other thing....Someone knows something?

Hi Danny can you? move well as the limiter settings, I'm working on, as soon as I can place the results..

[Danny]

Okay, if you tell me pi? whether or not zon is in my file, let's try to figure something out together... ;)

[Backgroop]

To change the limiter that source ? set at 5500 rpm and to increase the rpm minimum to proceed in the following way:

To move the limiter:
Search in the ESA the string 157C 02EE the search return? the two results, the bit that interests us ? 157C
that decimal has a value of 5500 rpm

To move the rpm minimum:
Search in the ESA the string 157C 02EE the search return? the two results, the bit that interests us ? 02EE
that decimal has a value of 750 rpm


157c = AFM1:maximum engine rpm (cond.attivazione)
02EE = AFM1:minimum Threshold engine rpm (cond.attivazione)

Attention! the bits are available for editing at the pair and then two for the limiter, and two for the rpm minimum

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[Danny]

Ok, but then xk? now it makes me stop at 5300rpm? I checked my file, it is set to 5500, but don't get it

[Danny]

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Here is my screen in relation to the limiter

[angelolsp]

there arrivals diesel then... make the pedal and the torque limiters up to 5500 and there dovreti arrive safely

[Danny]

Umh, do you mean editing the last curve of the 2 drivers wish by adding another point?
And ditto on the torque limiters?

[angelolsp]

the break point in the 2d how many laps you stop? if the latter, for example, stops at 5300 upgrade to 5500...

[Danny]

On the drivers wish they stop one-to-5500 and a 5700.
In the limiters, c'? a 4688 ricorrende everywhere...

[angelolsp]

in limiters last break 4688? it seems strange to me ...email the file

[Backgroop]

the break point in the 2d how many laps you stop? if the latter, for example, stops at 5300 upgrade to 5500...

Updating the break point to the value of the limitation you get the classic shot to the limiter as gasoline engines ;)

[Danny]

Back, are you sure? If you look at the edge of the 69, prior to the injection, you will find two curves that stop to 6000 and a single bit that stops at 6000....
From them you get the shot.
In 75, the first two are to climb, one arrives at the 5100 and 5200...and the bit ? always 6000....

[Danny]

Angel, a few pages behind you find my files

[angelolsp]

Updating the break point to the value of the limitation you get the classic shot to the limiter as gasoline engines ;)

exactly!!! :D

[Danny]

Are you sure?

[mariodarkblue]

Sorry for the absence, but I'm a little busy..cmq quoto backgroop..The rev limiter? just the one indicated by backgroop...ma you must also update the bp of the various torque limiters;) Cmq, if you have to look for the lim on the 75 just know how many revolutions ?, then convert the value of turns from decimal to hexadecimal with the calculator ofind..and look for value with the ecm tool;)

[pdtechnology]

I know this is really the displacement of the limiter and all the rest ? from here, then I don't know...

[Backgroop]

I know this is really the displacement of the limiter and all the rest ? from here, then I don't know...
what would it be?

[Danny]

Seeing 5200, I think it refers to something that has to do with the maximum rpm.

[pdtechnology]

if you see the limiter ? 5100 port bit-by-bit to 5500 then the other bits ? 6000 scendilo 5400 and you get the shot at the limiter..***** o if I ask for the bit of the rail as a moddi?I've now read the discussion

[Danny]

The limiter shown by you pd, with the bit, are the righteous. But I do not go over 5300.....

[angelolsp]

but if you had the limiter set to 5500 bringing the break all at 5500 i.e. a limiter because you have to climb the bit to the 6000?

[pdtechnology]

if you read carefully I said that the bit from the mod are those ke range from 4800 to 5500 the do everything you need to 5500 and bit ke ? to 6000 the airports around here

and anyway, the fact that does not go beyond the 5300, you have to check other parameters need to see how you want to run the engine...

[Danny]

if you read carefully I said that the bit from the mod are those ke range from 4800 to 5500 the do everything you need to 5500 and bit ke ? to 6000 the airports around here

Gi? done, I set everything to 5400. In my file, the part that goes from 4900 to 5200. Made almost square to 5400, but stops at 5300. Which other parameters should I check?

[Fede78]

Thank you Backgroop to me indicated this discussion ;)
Tomorrow I try this bit of the rail!

The other thing that would be interesting (at least for me... or for those who intend to mount a turbine is different) find the limiters of the turbo... on another forum I think I have read that they are to change 3 things... two bits and a map.
What do you think?

The other thing that I did not understand what you mean by firing a limiter?

Thanks!

[Tuningmotor88]

Thank you Backgroop to me indicated this discussion ;)
Tomorrow I try this bit of the rail!

The other thing that would be interesting (at least for me... or for those who intend to mount a turbine is different) find the limiters of the turbo... on another forum I think I have read that they are to change 3 things... two bits and a map.
What do you think?

The other thing that I did not understand what you mean by firing a limiter?

Thanks!

Hello to gun limiter means the change of the limiters that we are out of the driver on the multijet

[Backgroop]

Hello to gun limiter means the change of the limiters that we are out of the driver on the multijet

I did not understand what do you mean??