INFORMATION, I Ask for help !!! 2.4 jtdm no egr, no dpf

[sighline]

Hello to all
I have an alfa brera 2.4 (version 210cv)and I wanted to ask you if you give me some advice on what hardware to choose ... Which one more suitable to my ecu ? Which software to use ?
Then another question : Excessive smoke; hence' at low rpm ( 1700 rpm * 500 nm) what is the date ? from the advance ? And' possible to do you decrease torque in the low and bringing it progressively to the revs high ?
First of all, I buy the hardware with the software and read the map, and then I'll know the data of the reading, so maybe you can think about this the better !

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I think wrong section of the forum .. ;/

[mariodarkblue]

Hello to all
I have an alfa brera 2.4 (version 210cv)and I wanted to ask you if you give me some advice on what hardware to choose ... Which one more suitable to my ecu ? Which software to use ?
Then another question : Excessive smoke; hence' at low rpm ( 1700 rpm * 500 nm) what is the date ? from the advance ? And' possible to do you decrease torque in the low and bringing it progressively to the revs high ?
First of all, I buy the hardware with the software and read the map, and then I'll know the data of the reading, so maybe you can think about this the better !

Hello..if you want to make your car, buy safely mpps V12...? reliable on that ECU...editing Software, I recommend you ECMtitanium...is around...
For the fumosit? at low revs...don't tell us if the car ? already mapped...if it has the egr active and fap active...km?
Once you have verified these things, to check in diagnosis, the correct functioning of the system and that there are no sleeves broken.
If the egr ? still working, it would be appropriate to remove the intake manifold, clean it, close the egr by software and with sheet, to take advantage and remove the swirl (with the time ? success that they were broken off, and venisser ingested by the engine), defappare and remove kat.
After us?, surely you'll have a whole other car

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Then, the car has 100k miles (who knows how many it has in reality, there is a software x check the effittivo mileage ?), the egr excluded from the map and tapped with a small plate, dpf physically removed and excluded from the map, manifold suction disassembled , cleaned .. the swirl I did not touch . Glue the original map would 210cv and 420 nm of torque.
When I brought it to sound has made a lot less horsepower ( 174cv) , hence, with the new map, and' to 215 hp and 500nm , drives very well from low up to 3k rpm where you hear a whistle coming from the turbine and/or sleeves ( don't know what it is , I have procured the silicone tubing and still have to get so change them all ) actually this whistle ( breath) you only feel when you are more than 3 thousand rpm , of facts begins to smoke greatly to the appearance of the latter
Then smoke in the accelerated from the low then stops up to 3 thousand rpm where it starts to smoke constantly up to 5 thousand.
Will certainly be the proportion of the air/fuel wrong saw the dispersion of the air
Another thing do consider : Before I'd take the dpf+kat did this whistle.. once removed it started to whistle ! I think that is the drain most****** (my idea)
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I have read that usually the hardware for mapping costs around 4 thousand euros.. and if you take those from 200-300 euro so-called 'clone' you risk a lot to ruin the ecu..

[Dragonfly]

Then, the car has 100k miles (who knows how many it has in reality, there is a software x check the effittivo mileage ?), the egr excluded from the map and tapped with a small plate, dpf physically removed and excluded from the map, manifold suction disassembled , cleaned .. the swirl I did not touch . Glue the original map would 210cv and 420 nm of torque.
When I brought it to sound has made a lot less horsepower ( 174cv) , hence, with the new map, and' to 215 hp and 500nm , drives very well from low up to 3k rpm where you hear a whistle coming from the turbine and/or sleeves ( don't know what it is , I have procured the silicone tubing and still have to get so change them all ) actually this whistle ( breath) you only feel when you are more than 3 thousand rpm , of facts begins to smoke greatly to the appearance of the latter
Then smoke in the accelerated from the low then stops up to 3 thousand rpm where it starts to smoke constantly up to 5 thousand.
Will certainly be the proportion of the air/fuel wrong saw the dispersion of the air
Another thing do consider : Before I'd take the dpf+kat did this whistle.. once removed it started to whistle ! I think that is the drain most****** (my idea)
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I have read that usually the hardware for mapping costs around 4 thousand euros.. and if you take those from 200-300 euro so-called 'clone' you risk a lot to ruin the ecu..

What color of smoke, white, black, or royal blue.
If you take the clones right not to spoil anything...

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What color of smoke, white, black, or royal blue.
If you take the clones right not to spoil anything...

The classic black smoke ( smoke, white only when the engine is cold, and especially if there is a lot of humidity, and after 5 min it stops) , I went to try it now glue the outlet of the mass air flow sensor off and think it's the same as before ( it is turned on immediately the light of the engine) .. An example : I Put the third to 1k rpm and 20-30 per hour and lunge at all .. as the revs reach 1500 begins to throw the black smoke jerky then going up to 1800 spring one of those clouds of smoke black that I miss the train of the 50's that went to the steam came out of all that crap.. ( just so so , not to believe), then at 1900 rpm stops smoking throughout , rooms at 2900 rpm starts to whistle, and again to smoke. ( the fact of the smoke after 2900 rpm and it is precisely proportionate to the whistle, occur together) Up to 5000 does not change anything as smoke; hence' . Strange noises the engine makes , and it is only after the pull to the neck x about 40 minutes begins to tichettare as I describes in my previous post
P. s with the mass air flow sensor attached smoke; hence the performances do not change .
P. s.s For mpps v15 and the ecm titanium it will take a few days before I arrive . I have already contacted one of here to buy the mpps but the sofwware I still have to try I think..
To fenire the talk I highlight this fact : The machine is 2008, 100 thousand km model 210cv ( glue turbine gtb2056v and not that of the KKK 200 hp)
Bought the car and did the cutting general glue cleaning the egr sn went to rullarla . Results : 174 hp and 400 nm ( compared to 210 and 420 of the original that should have ) . The machine smoked, but not excessively, and NOT whistling nothing.
immediately after the intervention ( dpf+cat removed , straight tube mounted ) to come from the mapper already felt clearly the whistle.
First rolled glue map 1 : 240 hp , smoke; hence' exaggerated
The second rolled map 2 : 230 hp , smoke; hence it is always that
The last rolled and map 3 : 215 hp, smoke; hence' a bit decreased, but always exaggerated ( as now)
The mapper me consgiliato to remove the egr , clean the inlet and check that there is no loss of air, and am convinced that if the machine is put in place after a non-smoker more xke is the map that I put it is 'guaranteed' .
Logically then the egr and luca stanca sn arranged in the control unit
P. s.s.s-X regarding the removal of the swirl, and' already' I and' cost 300 eu labour x plug off the egr and clean the led now if I am still with the same thing..
Anyway, before throwing money to them' I want to solve the problem with the smoke..
It is normal for the machine to go equally to both with mass air flow sensor that without?
Thanks to all !!

[mattycar]

With the mpps, the read and write quietly.you should light and you post the original file to check if the exclusion of the dpf and egr have not touched the other.if the car has factory 210 hp and strange that all of a sudden cali cos? so much power.

[SandroMarciano]

you do not risk anything, especially on that ecu! buy the hw and the map in the forum, I think that should be watched very carefully... if you feel a puff of air at 3000 rpm with a decrease in performance can? be the turbine enters the pump, and this ruin to in a long time!

[sighline]

you do not risk anything, especially on that ecu! buy the hw and the map in the forum, I think that should be watched very carefully... if you feel a puff of air at 3000 rpm with a decrease in performance can? be the turbine enters the pump, and this ruin to in a long time!

I would like to hear some details on this your warning .. What our 'pumping' ? and as the ruin the engine? there are already some contradictions here. One says to remove dpf, kat, prekat, the other said rimontargli in case I had removed :P

[leandro89]

the whistle that you hear can? also be the vacuum of the catalyst and the dpf.