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    I have not seen the map, but x ratings ? better wait for someone more? expert.
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    Citazione Originally Written by panterargento Visualizza Messaggio
    I have not seen the map, but x ratings ? better wait for someone more? expert.
    If you happen to give her a look and say to me if that was what you intended to map informed? The two lim iq are modified correctly?

    In a previous post I have answered on the question on the map deceived and lamba saying that there is no need to change it, but if, on the request of the pedal, I ask x nm and this x I corresponds to a value in the mm3 pi? the top of the one in the map fumosit? not me is limited anyway? Cos? doing this will not get an increase of mm3 perch? I have increased the times but not on the basis of the value in mm3 that I think but on the basis of the value limited by the map of lambda?

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    Citazione Originally Written by GPoint Visualizza Messaggio
    I've read the discussions recommended, I hope to have them designed just to understand the logic to inform the map. I tried to make some changes, but not being very sure of the work I don't know if a map like this I could try it or would be deleterious. My intent ? to get to about 85mm3 and see how it behaves with the machine both in performance and consumption, but as I said they are not able to assess the quality? (also to the reliability? in the time-frame of these changes having very little experience.

    There are still things that are not in the limiters iq out of the drivers...the time you have figured out how to inform them only, that should be arranged hammer, for informalra of all missing several BP as advances, vgt, rail and turbo (follow the principle of the times), I would have placed better on the foot pedal (I did not increase in the percentage) and the turbo, rail pressure I leave it gold, again ? an opinion of one that st? learning...


    Citazione Originally Written by GPoint Visualizza Messaggio
    If you happen to give her a look and say to me if that was what you intended to map informed? The two lim iq are modified correctly?

    In a previous post I have answered on the question on the map deceived and lamba saying that there is no need to change it, but if, on the request of the pedal, I ask x nm and this x I corresponds to a value in the mm3 pi? the top of the one in the map fumosit? not me is limited anyway? Cos? doing this will not get an increase of mm3 perch? I have increased the times but not on the basis of the value in mm3 that I think but on the basis of the value limited by the map of lambda?
    Just as you say, but if you increase the time without informing them I think that the lambda to be false...
    However, I hope in an intervention of someone more? expert.
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    The limit of iq increases in the peaks where ? the maximum capacity, you may as well try it cos? and make a log, however X inject ir? of 80mm3 you moddare other limiters, then in the case inject + 80 you should give a bit of advance, I can say that with 80mm3 machine v? discreetly and you don't even need to touch the times, you do one thing as soon as you download the map that I posted and try to do it the same maybe starting with the increases to 1500 rpm, watch out for? that ? defappata and not to be confused with the mod of the fap with the other.
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    Citazione Originally Written by panterargento Visualizza Messaggio
    The limit of iq increases in the peaks where ? the maximum capacity, you may as well try it cos? and make a log, however X inject ir? of 80mm3 you moddare other limiters, then in the case inject + 80 you should give a bit of advance, I can say that with 80mm3 machine v? discreetly and you don't even need to touch the times, you do one thing as soon as you download the map that I posted and try to do it the same maybe starting with the increases to 1500 rpm, watch out for? that ? defappata and not to be confused with the mod of the fap with the other.
    Ok, among other things, my even has the fap. To go a second OT, but for defappare you have changed the single bit which is discussed in "edc16 Impariamola" or did you use a specific software? At least you have tried to see how well does the machine with the mod of the single-bit luca stanca? The end OT

    The other limiters iq if I'm not mistaken, you spoke of the other two are gi? values higher than 100, I don't know if you were talking to those or to others. For the question advances, it seems to me to have understood that something soft would be to vary about 1 degree, for? to be sincere ? one thing that I have not even looked at, I would like to first find some discussion of the pi? specific.

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    Yes, I used "Time" for defappare, and not ? a single bit, but some areas I correct manually.

    The other limiters, there is one at 100 one at 110 and one at 83...on advances ? quite complicated, and I st? trying to figure out.
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    Citazione Originally Written by panterargento Visualizza Messaggio
    Yes, I used "Time" for defappare, and not ? a single bit, but some areas I correct manually.

    The other limiters, there is one at 100 one at 110 and one at 83...on advances ? quite complicated, and I st? trying to figure out.
    I miss the one at 83, I found the 2 to 77, which as you may have seen I had already? increased and the other 2 at 100 and 110 that I left the original.

    Prover? to do some log from the original, to see how it behaves with the changes.

    I also wanted to try to make a mod about 80mm3 as I've suggested, so you can leave the originals both times made out in that deal? fuel inj. Just to see how it behaves with only these changes. Virtually by modifying the pedal to get to that threshold inj and the various limiters including the lambda, maybe? I can also get an idea to practice.

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    The one on the 83 take it to 85 per team if you want to inject 80 (for me they are good), then if you want more? of course, you have to climb...
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    Citazione Originally Written by panterargento Visualizza Messaggio
    The one on the 83 take it to 85 per team if you want to inject 80 (for me they are good), then if you want more? of course, you have to climb...
    Yesterday I was a p? absent to blow out the candles and I could not answer, but thanks to your advice I have also found that limiter. Also today I had a p? log with the original unit, they practically do not inject more? of 70mm3, then follow? your advice trying to get around 80 and see how it behaves in the car. I edited the section on the pedal to try to get the value of torque is referred to 80mm3 in the table iq x nm (something more?) so by not having to inrevenire on the times that are already? scaled to that value. Then by reference to the log referred to the air mass measured I lowered the values in the map of lambda from about 650 on, basically when the value of the mass air misuarta drops below that threshold was at the time of release or at low rpm, just to see if acts as a flow restrictor on the diesel, and then lowering the data in the table should allow greater flow of fuel. The limiters iq active (which should be the three with what I've suggested) I've modified in the peaks pi? high, instead of the one in relation to the pedal I have changed by about 50%, leaving may at this point the original values to 0. I hope in some advice, just to test it on the road map.
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    Citazione Originally Written by panterargento Visualizza Messaggio
    The pedal could go, but I do it otherwise, the lambda takes the values 1 those that are in excess of 1 to 660mg, the turbo only increases the last 2 columns, the second to the last 50 points and the last 100 points should be enough, the limit turbo put it at 2600, rail pressure, I leave you gold, but in your case increases its limiters of 1 percentage point + relative to the map (5%), limit iq out drivers I don't like (apart from the one on team v? well) only increases the peak where the flow of diesel ? maximum setting it to 80mm3.
    You have not informed to the map well, but you could also try it cos?, then do the mod that I recommended, and you can feel the differences in sensation and doing a log.
    You're giving me a nice hand, but realize tomorrow prover? the map with log. If I can tomorrow in the evening I put the log just to pull two conclusions. I just changed the timing nor the amount? diesel, the map times ? suitable for 80 and now I would like to be able to keep me that way for not having to change. Definitely adeguer? the lambda, at most, will work? step.

    But as logic, to map the pedal should be compared to the map iq x nm on the 80\85 then I think I can leave the times ori.

    Today I tried the modified map in the limited iq as I have suggested. Thanks to a picture he posted to another user in one of the discussions that I have recommended to read, I adjusted the limiter iq. From the log it is injected to about 80mm3, it seems to me that the car fumes, and the provision I like. The only doubt ? for the turbo and from the log, he had only one peak at approximately 1,69 bar, usually remains on 1.50\1.60 bar. I wanted to see in terms of power and what it meant to inject 80mm3, and to be sincere are more? satisfied. Surely not ? a map is valuable from many points of view, but I'm glad of what I achieved, of course, thanks also to the several aid that I received. I hope that others besides panterargento give me their opinion in order to further improve my map. Anyway ****s performance I would not seek anything more?. Today I thought that other users who inject the right amount? significantly higher, than 90 and more?, but that guided a ballistic missile they are greedy horses



    I hope in some criticism, thanks again.
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