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    THE ACTIVE USER L'avatar di munro
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    Citazione Originally Written by SandroMarciano Visualizza Messaggio
    to clarify: 156 2.4 jtd 136cv mounts geo fixed,
    156 2.4 140 (mounting a VNT if I remember correctly)
    156 2.4 150 GT2256V
    156 2.4 175 GT2256V with trim more
    159 2.0 170 GTB1549V
    159 2.4 200 KKK
    159 2.4 210 GTB2056V

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    on the mjet 16v there should mount the injectors of both the delta twin turbo, both those of the 147 DC of 2.0.
    Going in order of size from the pi? great to the pi? small.

    *munro, playing with injections to the secondary you can make the last injection even more? 12? without too many problems.
    Hello Sandro just to clarify the 2.4 200cv uses a borg warner BV50 and not the kkk....
    while the 2.4 140cv mounts a gt22vnt...
    I know that playing with the injections it has a duration of much more than the 12? but, I refer to this value as the maximum duration in the corner that can and ? much higher, but as a limit(with respect to tdc), beyond which the car smokes and you have a lot of heat so they are 12? postponement of the event(always in relation to tdc), beyond which it is not expedient to go....
    then for not "breaking" this parameter there are a p? of streets,see rail pressure is very high,advances,etc...but when you want to inject massive doses of diesel fuel in a short time, the only possible way are the injectors big...
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    Then you could mount it on JTDM 8v 120 bhp, I suppose, I don't know if they can be used even on the old 115hp edc15 if the ECU pilot pump and injectors

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    Citazione Originally Written by tidus1985 Visualizza Messaggio
    Then you could mount it on JTDM 8v 120 bhp, I suppose, I don't know if they can be used even on the old 115hp edc15 if the ECU pilot pump and injectors
    on the 8v 115 mountain injectors 120, but both do not fit the injectors, 16V as pi? long, does not fit physically, then the change would make little sense given that the time of injection would be in favour of a very short...

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    does anyone know if the injectors of the brera the 308 have the poverizzatore 6 or 7 holes?
    Are also mounted on the 2.0 jtdm new.

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    Citazione Originally Written by Blackhawk Visualizza Messaggio
    does anyone know if the injectors of the brera the 308 have the poverizzatore 6 or 7 holes?
    Are also mounted on the 2.0 jtdm new.
    Hello Blackhawk, are you by any chance Eugenio?
    However, coming back to the injectors, and the delta should mount the same injectors, 2.4 210 hp as the injection times are the same, the Ducati Corse has injection timing even more? the courts, instead, especially if you tween time to 120mm3 or gi? of them.
    I horsemanship injectors 210cv/ 190 hp and with 1180us and 29 degrees of advance about I rolled 262 hp and 540nm, with 1280us and always 29 degrees, I rolled 267cv and 550nm. With the map from 267cv the fumosit? ? low and I have pressure of 2.3/2.4 peak and 2 to the limiter. Now prover? a new map with less advance map and advance climbing up to 5000 with advance of 30 degrees to the 5000. However, with the original pump 150 hp I've noticed that keep 120mm3 injection up to 5000 rpm, is not to be cos? well why? the rail pressure if required to 1720bar does not remain constant, and with 120mm3 held only 1680 bar, so I opted to lower the main injection, but keep the times a p? pi? long and seems to go better and I can hold 1720 bar. On the tour I had 115mm3 of the main injection and the time interpolated to 120mm3. In my opinion ? better to keep less injection above (maximum 110mm3) but to have the whole map scaled to 120mm3, so give 120mm3 up to tot laps and then get off of the main injection to be able to raise a p? pi? the rail.

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    Excellent observation, in effect, give a little less quantity? and increase the p-rail, go to a minimum to recover, otherwise you will need to increase your high pressure pump for the flow rate to the higher, but also to work a bit more in reliability, however, excellent results 267 hp congratulations
    The power is nothing without control

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    Citazione Originally Written by jacktheripper2 Visualizza Messaggio
    Hello Blackhawk, are you by any chance Eugenio?
    However, coming back to the injectors, and the delta should mount the same injectors, 2.4 210 hp as the injection times are the same, the Ducati Corse has injection timing even more? the courts, instead, especially if you tween time to 120mm3 or gi? of them.
    I horsemanship injectors 210cv/ 190 hp and with 1180us and 29 degrees of advance about I rolled 262 hp and 540nm, with 1280us and always 29 degrees, I rolled 267cv and 550nm. With the map from 267cv the fumosit? ? low and I have pressure of 2.3/2.4 peak and 2 to the limiter. Now prover? a new map with less advance map and advance climbing up to 5000 with advance of 30 degrees to the 5000. However, with the original pump 150 hp I've noticed that keep 120mm3 injection up to 5000 rpm, is not to be cos? well why? the rail pressure if required to 1720bar does not remain constant, and with 120mm3 held only 1680 bar, so I opted to lower the main injection, but keep the times a p? pi? long and seems to go better and I can hold 1720 bar. On the tour I had 115mm3 of the main injection and the time interpolated to 120mm3. In my opinion ? better to keep less injection above (maximum 110mm3) but to have the whole map scaled to 120mm3, so give 120mm3 up to tot laps and then get off of the main injection to be able to raise a p? pi? the rail.

    that machine we speak and with what modifications?
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    Citazione Originally Written by msport (exil77grande) Visualizza Messaggio
    that machine we speak and with what modifications?
    Grande punto 1.9 engine of the croma 16v, gtb2260vk bmw, ic, ic piping 60mm stainless-steel, exhaust, intake and direct my map. If you want to place the video where you can see the rolled and the fumosit? for the road..

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    Citazione Originally Written by jacktheripper2 Visualizza Messaggio
    Grande punto 1.9 engine of the croma 16v, gtb2260vk bmw, ic, ic piping 60mm stainless-steel, exhaust, intake and direct my map. If you want to place the video where you can see the rolled and the fumosit? for the road..
    very good result,I've done online, in an old punto jtd engine with 159 with the same changes that must sound to short,,the last time with the turbine,pump, and injectors has done something more than 250cv with 2.1 bar peak and 1.8-1.9 bar constant,post the video.
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    Citazione Originally Written by msport (exil77grande) Visualizza Messaggio
    very good result,I've done online, in an old punto jtd engine with 159 with the same changes that must sound to short,,the last time with the turbine,pump, and injectors has done something more than 250cv with 2.1 bar peak and 1.8-1.9 bar constant,post the video.
    Here is the video. http://www.youtube*****/watch?v=Cin-U...FYBn3-2EnEAkwg. On my channel there are videos of how it goes. The pump would not hurt to change it why? you could keep 120mm3 up to 5000 rpm, with 1730/1750 bar would come out out a few more hp. In any case, you would need injectors also best to be able to keep advances most? low why? with 30 degrees and over the engine ? enough under stress. Abroad, a user can? provide injectors in the amount of 40% and 80%, he them had to take off why? he said that they were completely exaggerated and could not calculate the good times, and smoking well at the minimum, while 40% do not have problems.

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