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    Citazione Originally Written by tidus1985 Visualizza Messaggio
    but speaking of injectors "standard" on the various engines, we have a limit of injection? I give you an example, I on the 120 hp with inj ori injection approximately 100mm3 of diesel fuel to a rail pressure maximum 1700bar and according to my calculation to inject 100 mm3 of fuel to 1600 bar my injector between the time of opening the needle, charging capacitors and all employs nearly 1200 us, this could be a limit, for example, for an injector of a jtdm from 120 hp? I did not realize, and I did not realize how much can go with the times, although I have seen that this pressure more than 100 mm3 of fuel are deleterious and harm performance if you do not smoke
    we can say that the injectors 120 hp can also give 115-120mm3 of diesel ori....
    the real limit st? in the times that you have to use to inject that amount?....
    the cio? with 1200us beginning to inject the es with 19-20 degrees of advance at 4000rpm, inevitably, you're going to inject with a lot of delay with respect to the pms, which translated, means so much warmth and so much smoke...
    now to the es for a vw tdi, the limit of the duration of injection after tdc, beyond which inject even diesel fuel to create the unpleasant drawbacks mentioned above and 10? after the pms....
    for a mjet I believe that such a limit is given a p? tests and calculations made is around 12? after the pms...
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    then I could draw up a table to post here sol forum is for the injectors of the 120 and the 150 original with the max injection time can be set from ori, speaking always with advances stock

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    I can not understand what you mean by "max time can be set from ori"....
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    ah, maybe now there are you say the maximum injection time editable without moddare break point and anything else??
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    I mean, the maximum time can be set without changing the anticiopi that can be set without going over pms with original injectors

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    place this worksheet in exel, ? in jpg format, for instance, on my map,

    these are my values, I created a spreadsheet based on the number diri, calculating on the basis of the map rail iltempo opening which I require basic spins and diesel fuel required, then I turned the us in degrees for each step of turns, and putting the advances that I had calculated here on the last table on the right, the duration of the injections post pms, I for example I made to finish the latest up to 2000 rpm to accelerate the turbine without going to work on an overboost, this meant munro
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    unfortunately, I was demoted for not having attended the forum as I wanted and for the moment the only thing I can do in the forum ? send and read the post...I can not see attachments nor anything else...
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    Sorry for the rules of the forum I can only post in the forum when you have reached the.share the show after the place for written

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    the times - us rpm advances-degrees rail - bar time * rpm times the rpm >degrees inj post pms - degrees
    100mm3 rpm 100mm3 100mm3 100mm3 100mm3 100mm3
    3000 250 1,01 300 3000 4,504504505 3,494504505
    3000 500 1,99 350 3000 9,009009009 7,019009009
    3000 750 4,01 450 2726 12,27927928 8,269279279
    3000 1000 6 700 2200 13,25301205 7,253012048
    3000 1250 6 877 1676 12,60150376 6,601503759
    3000 1500 6 1006 1600 14,41441441 8,414414414
    1755 1750 5,23 1113 1465 15,42105263 10,19105263
    1520 2000 6,14 1198 1395 16,80722892 10,66722892
    1395 2250 8,53 1284 1330 17,97297297 9,442972973
    1330 2500 11,37 1391 1280 19,10447761 7,734477612
    1265 2750 12,82 1498 1225 20,41666667 7,596666667
    1225 3000 14,55 1605 1188 21,6 7,05
    1188 3250 15,63 1712 1150 22,54901961 6,919019608
    1110 3500 16,78 1712 1150 24,46808511 7,688085106
    1110 4000 20,15 1712 1150 27,38095238 7,230952381
    1110 4500 24,28 171 2 1150 31,08108108 6,801081081
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    and formatting that, however, the tables are divided into "time - us" --- "spins" --- "advances-degree" --- "rail - bar" ---"times * rpm" ---"times rpm >degrees" --- "inj post pms - degree"

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