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  1. #11
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    If you would have a obd log or a device that records the journey'd be easier to go back to see what you and success, however, attenziona turbo and egr

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    Then the egr diattivata, with the machine I have done so many miles and I have not found anything.
    I gave the car to the client, has shot quite a few highway everything is ok , it tells me that the defect of the first not is more , but ? slow when part from the "crossroads"...
    I redid the diagnosis and gives me error P010F Inconsistency mass air/mass air flow sensor.
    I state the defect ? the same that he gave every time before, but I'm not sure that I had deleted after you have disabled the egr.
    The strange thing ? she now seems that the complaints of another defect ( seen that we do not have more made ) .

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    THE ACTIVE USER L'avatar di ugoboss
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    even if you turned off from the map if it was a little open for locked you can give that a defect in the start, chiudila also physically.
    ugo ---- president A.E.P.

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    Are 100% sure that the egr valve ? closed why? ? new at least to the last piece, let's say that where c'? both electrical and mechanical, but I know that this system of the garden also has a valve say pneomatica before this in order to cool the gas and wondering how the defect came to the mountain , after having already replaced the egr valve, I thought it right to exclude the case of recirculating gas.
    Only now c'? this problem you have low... with this error that I do not know if ? released before or after deactivation from the map, now is running safely without errors and egr disabled.
    what do you say?

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    Smontala ? proofread it.. this recirculation system, exhaust gas system delk'garden g
    he has a problem, on the heat exchanger front for instance the case for the deformation of the plastic of the cover, a deformation that is drawing the cold air that comes from the intake manifold into the chamber where the exchange takes place the egr, the air is cool so fast the exhaust gas that become cristallizati and hard as a stone.. these gas induritti not only are pasted on the walls of the heat exchanger but you paste on the stem of the valve motor egr blocking it immediately.. I ? happened on the pi? engines with this system in a car well I mounted the 3 egr valves all blocked in just a few kilometres away, in short, was published as an information service by fiat, car is in warranty I solved it by replacing all of the heat exchanger full of egr, those out of warranty by unlocking the egr valve and successimente excluding it from the ecu
    The patience and virtue of the strong..

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    it could also be a wiring problem mass air flow sensor, try to see the continuity? the cables between mass air flow sensor and the engine control unit

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    Citazione Originally Written by michele30 Visualizza Messaggio
    Are 100% sure that the egr valve ? closed why? ? new at least to the last piece, let's say that where c'? both electrical and mechanical, but I know that this system of the garden also has a valve say pneomatica before this in order to cool the gas and wondering how the defect came to the mountain , after having already replaced the egr valve, I thought it right to exclude the case of recirculating gas.
    Only now c'? this problem you have low... with this error that I do not know if ? released before or after deactivation from the map, now is running safely without errors and egr disabled.
    what do you say?
    you are 100% sure but you have a car that recalls the lack of egr stuck partially open, I can't remember pneumatic valves of this model, and if you read the response of Backgroop you confirm the problems of these egr, it takes 5 minutes to close it physically, and to remove the doubt but it seems that it is easier to write on a forum instead of following the advice.
    ugo ---- president A.E.P.

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    Hello, I have not the fault of the egr valve absolutely I have the defect P010F Incongruity mass air/mass air flow sensor I know that in some cases it can be the egr, but here ? so difficult why? :
    1) with egr valve old, same problem
    2) with egr valve is new and it is closed by the map, still have that problem.
    ? for the one that I have a hard time believing that there is still the problem, and then you here of these engines, where the close physically?
    C'? other that escapes me but I do not know what since the defect does this only when she wants , maybe even after 100 km example

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    THE ACTIVE USER L'avatar di Backgroop
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    Citazione Originally Written by michele30 Visualizza Messaggio
    Hello, I have not the fault of the egr valve absolutely I have the defect P010F Incongruity mass air/mass air flow sensor I know that in some cases it can be the egr, but here ? so difficult why? :
    1) with egr valve old, same problem
    2) with egr valve is new and it is closed by the map, still have that problem.
    ? for the one that I have a hard time believing that there is still the problem, and then you here of these engines, where the close physically?
    C'? other that escapes me but I do not know what since the defect does this only when she wants , maybe even after 100 km example
    Rismonta the Egr valve and check it out physically leaving the plug attached to it and doing a test actuators, see if it is still open
    The patience and virtue of the strong..

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