how to change a torque limiter

[cicciogsr]

So, I'm sorry ke the user if it is taken...it was not but intention to offend anyone...it's just that, if I have a child who goes to school...and asks to be taught the additions, does not teach the moltiplicaizoni...
Anyway, mister...I try to help you...increases in the diesel fuel, 5%,... where?map the pedal?map time?map rail pressure?what ecu are we talking about?
Therefore, if you are going to give this percentage increase to the map pedal, thou shalt not do to another that an increase in the demand of diesel fuel (or torque) to the ecu...now...let's say that your pedal stop to 70mm3... your map ? "climbing" for these 70mm3...now, you have given the 5%increase and then you asked 73.5 mm3 of diesel...the ecu, in your opinion, what time curve/rail/lim smoke will go? to read?simple...always one of the 70!!!Now, you will understand well that the only mod to the pedal if not for the port increases...be careful...if you before you had a 50% pedal a request 60mm3 of diesel, now you have 60mm3+5%-->63mm3...then the ecu, in parit? pressure pedal inietter? pi? diesel...but the end result will be? always the same...it will be? simply how to install a sprint booster to the pedal...it will be? only the most reactive...xk? the avr? the max diesel in the shortest excursion pedal...
Now, let's go to the map time...according to me ? mistake to speak of %, why? qu? the dependence apart from the rail pressure, ? also given by the K-factor (which I have already? explained in another post)...and then, by increasing the map times, and the rail..you know? never how much fuel you are actually injecting! Here is the xk?, I prefer to decide what result do you get (or mm3 or in pairs), and l?, I'm going to increase the torque required at the pedal, then step to lim torque, then I go in the map times, and I'm going to enter in the last bp the new times calculated for the corresponding prex rail for the new amount of fuel required. In addition, the increase in the rail pressure only if the times become "important" and then the risk to go too many degrees in the post-injection...in this case, the increase in the rail pressure only where needed and I'm going to calculate the new time map time...
For the turbo, the speech ? the same...(at the 99% is reported prex total)...that is, until, for example, 70mm3 the ecu knows that he must do max 1.3 turbo...well...if we do x? in the little box of 70mm3 we calculated the times for 85mm3 of diesel...we'll go in the little box of 70mm3 of the turbo and we are going to insert the new pressure...
Of course you are speaking of speeches, very fine...of course moddare %...it can't hurt...xk? ? a DIESEL...and break a diesel..? very difficult....
I have seen maps with moddati advances as a % of jtd115...in the table were almost 9?....luckily there are limiters....
I hope not to have confused you even more..the advice I can give ?: parts one thing at a time, set a goal that you want to achieve (in terms of torque/diesel) and start editing the rest...

ok the speech ? just nothing to say c'? only a small detail that if you don't know all the limiters of diesel can't push the ecu to achieve the goal, then from my test does not ? true that if you mod the tables of the times you can not predict how much to inject, with the ones methodology you are good to balance the natural decrease of diesel fuel at high rpm due to a decrease in turbo pressure, I agree that that can't check everything, but many customers in parit? fuel injected with your system and with that of the mod to the tables of time choose the second because? the transitory dimenzzano the car seems more? reactive and nervous and on the top you can to correct the decline in diesel fuel...at the end in any case ? always a trick and then if suitable the bp of the times you have to avaddattare well as those of the advance, and if you put hand on a edc16 and you have to adapt the lambda and many other things ... that'll make you go down the diesel when you don't want it to drop..

[mariodarkblue]

*misterk, I can't see your file...still..***** s,...the ecu are we talking about?edc15 or 16? your torque limiter expresses diesel or torque?in any case, I'd suggest you leave it as it is ori up to 2000 rpm and then from l? start increasing gradually in the grid, always thinking about how much you want to "restrict"...if you can attach a screen of the torque limiter in the grid, I give you my opinion
*cicciogsr...quoto in full your surgery...I, in fact, I have not yet mentioned it to scale all of the bp in the map (which is what I did with my edc15c), but simply re-calculating the injection times in the last bp, adapting them to the new deal?...of course, there? doing in the bp of 70, I know that in the real world? inietter? 85mm3...and then andr? to adjust the advance and ilr esto...of course ? correct what you say about the transient...x? I prefer not to touch us? the designer has "calculated" up to a certain point...then, are different views...it all depends on how you want to do the lavoor

[giuseppe1374]

the guys all fail! as we left the field, I know that now we have to take the professor to support!

and then, however, if you read above, and after the last intervention, you understand that you have filmed the speech, you said that the diesel fuel is not in proportion, we would like to be explained how to change the discourse of the various maps and on purpose ? another thing, enlighten us, prof, according to me, you will fill the mouth of the things you read here and there.

[mariodarkblue]

Joseph...this ? my last response to your post...yours ? pure provocation aimed to spark a flame of which I do not want to be part of it...I hope that the mod has to intervene.
How to calculate the diesel fuel, I explained it already?...you talk about diesel..calculated where?map times?I have gi? stated in the post above that the times are linked to the rail pressure and the K factor...
Here is the link where I explain how I usually do...http://www.professionalchiptuning.ne...-delle-colonne
And at this point, I close...with you.

[michele30]

okay as I increased this limiter , the increases I made them that way to try, but what I'm interested in ? saepre if it can go well with the progression of the increase.
example, I selected the line to see the mod by double-clicking on 2000giri , hence the fact the increase in points ( indifference to me, 26.5 ecm ) , then the selected 2250giri also increased (also here the diff. 30), and so on, 2500, 2750....
okay to do so select every single lap and make the rise?
or example, 2500 rpm, you can also give a increase fixed?

[giuseppe1374]

the increases should be made with the policy and according to the other maps and not to fancy you can also incur damage, and then if not by the diesel is of little use to increase the torque lim

[michele30]

here is the file:


we can stand the work that I've done?

[michele30]

ok joseph, I know what you say, but I wanted to know it was just the way to make the change.
sorry but I have not attached the file to see, settle immediately

[MisterKappa]

I understand mario's what you mean, thanks for the explanation
I have started to study a little, and I do not know several maps

[MisterKappa]

I also have not yet reached the limit messages..
the MPPS should happen to me today.. and soon light is the map, and be able to post the changes
In the meantime, thanks mario !