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    Flash map Ducati Performance ECU original with MPPS

    Hi,
    whereas, as I also wrote in my presentation, I am completely ignorant on the subject, I need your help, ? the first time that I attempt with the control units of cars and motorcycles.
    I bought a Ducati Monster S2R 800 2006, I still have the bike physically on hand for the check, but the ECU should be a Magneti Marelli IAW 5AM; a friend of mine, who delights in mechanical engineering, has recently purchased a MPPS v12 (or v13, I can't remember) that from what I read around it seems to be compatible to the read/write ecu Ducati.
    The bike features the download Arrow, I'm going to also pick up an air filter pi? "open" (type BMC or Sprint Filter) and finally reprogram the ecu with the file found in the network of an ecu Ducati Performance to gain a few HP or anyway to give a bit more? sprint to the bike for more fun.
    I also found what should be the mapping file the original 320 KB (that of the DP ? 304 KB).
    Here are the points:
    1. With the MPPS that I lend you my friend (and who acts as if I could decide to buy), which is connected to the connector for the diagnosis, I can read and save the original mapping, keep it as a backup and if necessary restore it in case of problems?
    2. From what I understand documenting, the reading of the original would lead me to get a file from 320 KB that for? I could not change as the software to manage files from 304 KB, and then I should cut the first 16 KB; the file DP that I have downloaded ? 304 KB, to write it in the ECU must be from 320 KB, where I take the 16 KB missing?
    3. I have read that the mappings DP are not actually? a granch? especially for those who use the bike in the city?, my main use ? for a few outings in the weekends and for fun (and I repeat, give a little something more? to performance) are also not able to create only one map, I can't be happy with this file DP? Is the game worth the candle?

    In case someone has the desire to take a look, I am attaching the 2 files that I found on the net...
    File Allegati File Attachments

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    Test to identify the addresses of the maps.
    Then change the ones that are different.
    For example, advance and injection.

    Greetings
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    Citazione Originally Written by biela Visualizza Messaggio
    Test to identify the addresses of the maps.
    Then change the ones that are different.
    For example, advance and injection.

    Greetings
    Thank you for your reply but unfortunately I do not understand what you want to say...
    The first question that I wish someone would have negated ? if with MPPS I can read and write the ecu Ducati, already? it would be good to know this with certainty.
    Then I would like to understand how to write the file Ducati Performance ecu, since ? from 304 KB instead? 320 KB.
    I repeat that I do not know absolutely nothing on how to edit a map, advances, injection, for me ? almost Arabic, for now I'd settle for being able to use the map DP...

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    then friend you say I ducatista I've had 3 600 carburetor 900 carburetors and now I'm selling the s4r to take the speedfither the problem of the map ducati performanz that move the cv in the top, say, for use on the track, I have done hundreds of tests and does not earn more than 3 horses on this engine the only thing that you ? granted to make and move the provision to allow the engine to stretch more, aching note of the twin Italian has so much torque, maybe also too much but too early and ends too soon, with me and the time I managed to get a good compremesso hp torque but everything is how you want to ride you, if you want to do the races in a straight line ? an account put the map ducati performance, but if you want to use for the back of the mountain you have to get a most personalized, this motor ? like a blanket you cover your head you'll find out the feet and vicervesa I hope the comparison makes the idea,
    with regard to the map a little benza fat immediately a hair advance down then he wants to be delayed hindsight walls and does not stretch,
    to write it I have always used kess 1 bench
    while the others are still talking about us, we have already solved the problem
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    This Monster ? for me, the third Ducati, I had a Monster 600 carburetors and a 848 on which I had installed a ecu Ducati Performance original.
    Unfortunately, as I have already? written, are not able to fulfill my destiny a map alone, although maybe I prefer a bit of torque in the pi? at low revs (I like the bends in the mountains) than to have a higher speed? tip. Also the only system with which I could proceed to read and write ? the MPPS why? I don't have access to other systems...

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    Clarification: the file read from the MMPS ? from 320kb why? in you also the reading of the e2p, the file you found instead ? only the flash, 304kb. Software with ECM type, but also with a player hex if you can (go to copy/paste the first 4000 addresses of the file in hexadecimal), you could pull out a file full 320kb. The fact remains for? that wouldn't have the correct checksum and the risk of lock the unit in writing.

    Another point: the file Ducati Performance sure that it is suited to your bike for as ? the mass of the exhaust and air filter? You or less of the catalyst and the lambda control?

    Eye!! Do copy/paste with a file that you do not know without knowing exactly what you combine, they do damage!!

    M999
    Do not step files and more in private!! Post your requests on the forum.

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    Ok, thanks, now the ideas begin to clear...
    It seems to me that you are confirming that ? can read and write to these control units via MPPS.
    Reading the ecu directly from the bike I'd get a file from 320 KB then, with a hex editor I could take the first 16 KB of the original file and add them at the head of the file DP in order to regain a file from 320 KB (then written in the ECU via MPPS) but there would be the problem of the checksum.
    At this point, the questions remain 2:
    1. The bytes to be fetched via hex editor from the original file are those from address 000000 up to 003fff, or until 004000? According to my calculations it should be up to 003fff...
    2. Made this "copy & paste" of bytes, not c'? way to correctly recalculate the checksum?

    I would add that it is physically impossible I still have the bike between your hands, then I can not control catalyst and lambda probe, I only know that mount exhaust Arrow-approved (but with dbKiller off).
    Last edited by leandro89; 20-02-2014 to 21:38

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    I read my ECU with MPPS.
    Do not write a file of a different size.
    Best modified the original file.

    Greetings
    Racing is life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting"

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    the solution m999 ? easy to make....and ? the only way to do this soon soon.
    For the rest:you can pull off a good map and some pony in the pi? playing with small improvements, advances, and especially about the fixes....with those you get an engine very elastic and fluid...managing everything for the better, you lose the vehemence on the bottom....at least for the 4 valves...but the 2 we say that you can have a better delivery of medi...
    for the break......well if you got a twin...who do you want to do more than 200-220????
    anyway if you know how to do it, you can even play a little bit with the tps....gasoline not to overdo it....? easy to have fat in the lower part and the walls at the top....rather make a good co...giving priority to the balancing of the throttle bodies...the fuel mixture, the recoveries with the fixes....

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    Citazione Originally Written by ducati83 Visualizza Messaggio
    the solution m999 ? easy to make....and ? the only way to do this soon soon.
    For the rest:you can pull off a good map and some pony in the pi? playing with small improvements, advances, and especially about the fixes....with those you get an engine very elastic and fluid...managing everything for the better, you lose the vehemence on the bottom....at least for the 4 valves...but the 2 we say that you can have a better delivery of medi...
    for the break......well if you got a twin...who do you want to do more than 200-220????
    anyway if you know how to do it, you can even play a little bit with the tps....gasoline not to overdo it....? easy to have fat in the lower part and the walls at the top....rather make a good co...giving priority to the balancing of the throttle bodies...the fuel mixture, the recoveries with the fixes....
    I thank you and others for the answers, if I was an expert I would have been certainly useful, but unfortunately for me they are coming to the Arabic...
    The best, for now, that I would be able to do ? read the original file from the ecu and post it here on the forum, then I have to find some pious soul, that or guide me step by step in the modification, starting both from the tell me which software to use, and then pointing to no terms are too technical changes that I should make, or you take the file, and when you have the desire/time to do it to me edit and me riuppa on the forum changed, perhaps explaining here on the forum, the changes made to the cos? from the comparison of the 2 files that people like me can begin to understand something more?...

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