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  1. #11
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    It depends on what happens, very often, the workshops are risking a lot.

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    I work in the workshop, in fact, not ? just seen this topic, why? then a client wants to make the map why? cos? the car pulls to the pi?, it's better, but then every time they have a problem driin the phone rings, but did not ? this is attributed to the map? I don't know how to leave? but some way to protect it will have? while to find it. does anyone have any document of a release to me to see cos? I do have an idea of how to develop one of my own, thank you very much

  3. #13
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    Hello gick unfortunately, I don't think there's a document that we can protect if not common sense

  4. #14
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    For some interventions, such as the remapping of the ecu, there you can? protect with a discharge of the liability? well done.
    Small digression, different speech for those processes such as the people or scooters for children, takes a type of liability? other than just because? there are people who are legally not fully responsible for their actions why? not ripe.

    For instead of a PHYSICAL deletion of the particulate filter ACCORDING to ME non c'? discharge of liability? that keep, unless you bring only the exhaust and not the whole car, in that case you may not know that the use will be? done. It is a little how to for those who tampers with the cronotachigrafi, there you can? NOT feel responsible for such a thing.

  5. #15
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    for example, I can't get a physical elimination, I don't have the proper equipment and saw that the shop where I work does not ? my not I can do what I want, I was thinking to collaborate with other mechanics in the way that they perform the physical part of the deletion, and I for the electronics, my **** workshop with the clients who would like to do it says finch? there are no problems, leave them and then you think about it, but leave it to them in the meantime, clogs, it is good to do a forced regeneration with diagnostic tools to be sure that you clean it, then unmount it, clamp a straight tube and mount what, if tomorrow you want to sell the car and not run into legal problems, it is a comeback of the original map and the fap in a manner that everything goes and there are no problems. You never know who you are facing, I will not take risks.

  6. #16
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    Sincerely I too gick think of it as your **** workshop according to me ? right so

  7. #17
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    And' the right thing? Leave it installed and disable it from the map? To me it seems like a cheap shot against the owner of the car.

  8. #18
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    No, maybe I explained it wrong I said ? just leave it without touching anything in the limits of the possible ? clear otherwise if you have to exclude the exclude but completely

  9. #19
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    this topic of luca stanca ? already been mentioned the most times if a workshop is this service to the law on the machines circulating on the street is not allowed? be made only for sports use only thing we can do to make the customer sign a document where he ? in the current work that is being done and that we do it just because? he asked us and then makes it use in sports....or the road more? fast and less risky not to make any type of receipt to repair, and then the customer in case wants to hurt you will have to? certify the car ? output without fap from your workshop....

  10. #20
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    in fact, I admit I am totally against the fap from the moment in which the fine particles below 0.7 microns, the lungs are not the filter, a fap said grossly mulch to 0.3. What makes me nervous ? the bullshit is made typically at the Italian which denotes how we are witty, I try to close a circle of logic.
    the fap ? described as a device antiinquinamento, retains all of the fine dust and sooner or later clogs, when it clogs up and becomes full, the engine must warm it, and then delete these dust, this process is called regeneration, the car has a sensor that detects where we are, bringing a practical example, I'm from modena, if in the evening on the avenues in the city centre with my girlfriend for a drink and spend three machines, one behind the other that are in the regeneration, the air becomes unbreathable, not to think that all that stuff goes directly into the blood of the people. The first law of chemistry teaches nothing is created and nothing is destroyed, well, I have not yet managed to understand with the regeneration of these damn parts that are deleted what they are, I did not find it specified anywhere. the regeneration of the pu? occur at any time and in any place, and then not ? even defined by rules such as, for example, a room specially that recovers these substances are harmful.
    Until someone sees? to rebut this argument with the arguments quite convincing to make me change my mind I am mine, the cio? that ? better remove it as soon as possible to the machine ? pi? free, consumes less, and goes on smooth.
    ? how to have a banana in the exhaust.
    Then for the legal issues actually there are many ways, my procedure was suitable for those who in some way would also have the chance? to be able to go back.

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