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  1. #31
    garret
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    Citazione Originally Written by carmageddon Visualizza Messaggio
    if I were you studierei a bit of fluid dynamics before making such a statement!
    have not put them in the case, carry out specific tasks and useful to the engine cos? as to the user.
    the fact that you have taken from you and be happy does not allow you to? to say thesis on the operation o l l utility? if you do not avvallate from the test, don't you think?

    don't I have with you is clear, but do not agree on the information (in this specific case)

    no offense.
    I shifted, I noticed a better response at all engine speeds, a significant increase in the speed? in the resume between gear changes, lower fuel consumption and as a side effect if so? we can define it, a reduction of the engine brake, which was almost non-existent even before in view of the presence of the automatic transmission, for what I was able to explain a relative ? degree in mechanical engineering, is their function ? mainly to create the so-called "empty" at the time of release and to accentuate the engine brake, the rest ? a project is imperfect and possibly harmful to the engine, then if you do you know pi? to an engineer, the better for you, the misinformation sometimes makes those who think they know and follow the rules of the technique, and not those of a real world test, then no offense is clear, de gustibus

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    being an engineer does not mean you know everything, and keep it in mind!
    without falling into banality I would say that among all those known to engineers, who pi? and those less familiar with all their work, who doesn't ? equal for all, but each one specializes only in the us? for what ? intended in his company...and then the explanation of the engineer, since it does not serve to create a vacuum, but at something else, I would say that is not ? your exact.
    I only inferred that you have written something that is overt intentionality that is displayed to anyone who reads why? I suppose that if I had read even just to wikipedia, not to mention the technical document related to the butterflies of turbulence, you would have understood why? I have written cos?...su various forums have made your choice already? many years ago, you know, ec n ? was only one that I remember that he knew the operation of the butterflies...and, strangely, not advising him...maybe because, although not ing. understand the why? the presence of fluid dynamics....for? degustibus non disputandum est....it just takes the pi? cognition and less arrogance (according to me)

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    of the l? the swirl creates a better combustion, but you want to go less by the mechanical stage EGR left open the palette
    the swirl and many greetings...

    Especially on series E46 that damage he made to not more? finally...

    then you can pull down? the whole dynamic of the fluids, CO2, NOx, etc...
    but honestly, people don't care..... just wants to fewer problems, spend less it to a mechanic for repairs of this kind...

    I know many People who remain on foot for the EGR routes, DPF clogged... regenerations every 40 km... etc...
    and consumption rise as well as the pollution, replacement of engine oil the first time.... and cos? ...

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    in fact this choice ? daughter of necessity? savings but is made without the knowledge of the functionality? that you lose!

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    unfortunately, what you say ? correct...a losses? c'? and there will be?.... and many do not know the real functions...

    but in the end, leaving aside the theories and test motor to the pi? the advantages and disadvantages for
    the average user who does not ne pu? pi?... I am talking about people who survive...

    St? engineers turn design systems that are efficient in a different way...
    but then the houses costuttrici agrees... to make it turn in the economy. ...

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    sorry, but in the fiat bravo this dipstick valve swirl I do not see close to the injectors, but there are on the 1.9 150 hp bravo?

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    Citazione Originally Written by bravosport150 Visualizza Messaggio
    sorry, but in the fiat bravo this dipstick valve swirl I do not see close to the injectors, but there are on the 1.9 150 hp bravo?
    on the good you will never see the dipstick because the collector bravo and cassocino in the lower part of the manifold,

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    azzz but how can I do to be able to check if the swirl work, in the sense that they open and close well? Why? in the morning for a few seconds seghetta the machine and then I have a weird pressure on the 2800rpm, I would not like you can depend on these indicted.
    With MES you can? see if all 4 work?

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    precollettore suction 159_1900 jtdm 16V_150CV.jpg
    Citazione Originally Written by bravosport150 Visualizza Messaggio
    azzz but how can I do to be able to check if the swirl work, in the sense that they open and close well? Why? in the morning for a few seconds seghetta the machine and then I have a weird pressure on the 2800rpm, I would not like you can depend on these indicted.
    With MES you can? see if all 4 work?
    Bravosport my seghettava little then ? increased and strange boost at those rpm situation of my manifold ? this annex

    precollettore suction 159_1900 jtdm 16V_150CV.jpg

  10. #40
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    Citazione Originally Written by carmageddon Visualizza Messaggio
    being an engineer does not mean you know everything, and keep it in mind!
    without falling into banality I would say that among all those known to engineers, who pi? and those less familiar with all their work, who doesn't ? equal for all, but each one specializes only in the us? for what ? intended in his company...and then the explanation of the engineer, since it does not serve to create a vacuum, but at something else, I would say that is not ? your exact.
    I only inferred that you have written something that is overt intentionality that is displayed to anyone who reads why? I suppose that if I had read even just to wikipedia, not to mention the technical document related to the butterflies of turbulence, you would have understood why? I have written cos?...su various forums have made your choice already? many years ago, you know, ec n ? was only one that I remember that he knew the operation of the butterflies...and, strangely, not advising him...maybe because, although not ing. understand the why? the presence of fluid dynamics....for? degustibus non disputandum est....it just takes the pi? cognition and less arrogance (according to me)
    it is distinctly noticeable that you come from a forum much more? "stated" this, in all you have written is not known, no definite information, said this hubris you to give with pleasure, you prove how good you are and expert, obviously the other forum "teaches"....... (according to me)

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