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    Then Sandro,
    in the meantime, thanks for your advice, I would like to know if in the map turbo ECM the actual values correspond to the pressure expressed in mbar, and if the 120mbar ? an empirical value or is outside by some reasoning, so much to understand.
    With regard to the couple, I know that ? a limiter, diesel, for? how do you explain the fact that in deceleration, the accelerator pedal is lifted, the machine ? very fluid and tends not to jerk when ? next stop cos? as it was not with the ori? (saw that the other maps in this area are gold?). The other thing, the machine is not for nothing that the same torque as that of the ori, on the contrary, it progresses very, very quickly by following the accelerator.
    Could you tell me how to keep the alarm the car to 4000rpm without making mechanical changes?

    [Cit. "The maps turbo among other things, control how the pressure , which tends to oscillate between that goal and that of the limiter, which are used by the pid controller on the variable geometry"]

    In fact, confirming what I'd said, what? the ECU adjusts only the an overboost and I add via the solenoid valve pierburg going to vary the geometry of the turbine with the map and time of an overboost (cos? as ECM calls it)!
    Then, if due to the high ****lli-injection, the turbine squirts instantly going beyond the max allowed by the table of limitation, the ECU, the only way for them to realize it ? through the pressure sensor, then making corrections to bring the pressure to the ****lli is set in the tab of limitation. There? explain why?, cos? as it says in Ghizmo, sometimes it happens to have (measure) a pressure peak pi? the top of there? that you expect!

    With regard to the pressure of the rail, I did the test that I have indicated, the cio? pull the 5th up to 180 and I have to tell you that I have not had any problem , no power on malfunction indicator light and also made diagnosis post test!

    Sandro,
    according to a another discussion for an engine similar to mine, and following your instructions, I decided to change the philosophy of mapping, touching only the map pedal, capping the EGR, limitaz. torque and turbo pressure, based on the max-injection of diesel fuel equal to 70mg/iniez as the ori.
    I gi? proven, and I have to say that I like the delivery, I just have to check the fuel consumption, which seem to me to be improved (to lower the consumption ? my objective!), the engine has a good sound and does not turn on the lights.
    Could you please look at it and see if I have committed any errors and/or omissions of other maps, whereas the use ECM Titanium?
    In particular, I would be interested to know how many HP as a guide I took and if I can still optimize.
    Thanks

    ]Sorry,
    but if I send the attachment maybe ? best!
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    from an eye, you are missing something... as you would?
    then remove the crap editing at the time...
    for the rail, I repeat that I have been stopped, luck would have it I had it with me the computer, and diagnosis. Now ride with 1490 bar, but with the correct bits...
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    Thanks for the tip Sandro, but that map with the ECM does not see it. I have winols 2.24, but I can not open the files of the maps I do not understand!
    About the timing, I have them forgiven ori, so I don't understand!
    Probably not, I have successfully uploaded the rar right, you see now:
    Unfortunately I have no way to verify the attachments, why? I still can't download them!
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    Now I can open the files with winols, was an installation problem. For my car identifies 43 maps of potential, but they are all without a name!
    Then, to be able to recognize it I need the damos 147 115HP. Could someone kindly fornirmelo, since the forum can't I download?

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    Citazione Originally Written by gps Visualizza Messaggio
    Now I can open the files with winols, was an installation problem. For my car identifies 43 maps of potential, but they are all without a name!
    Then, to be able to recognize it I need the damos 147 115HP. Could someone kindly fornirmelo, since the forum can't I download?
    not c'? nothing difficult in recognizing him without damos, among other things ? among the 43 maps potential.

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    Of course, Sandro, I know! Some maps I can identify them thanks to the ECM, but some of the ECM does not have a counterpart in WinOLS (referring to the addresses).
    We would like someone to help me to associate maps with winols to be able to read correctly the axes (designation map, unit? measurement and scale factors), at least cos? I could understand something!
    However, Sandro, have you read the map that I posted 2 days ago? I had already? changed the map lim diesel in funct(T_FUEL) in 2D using ECM, but now I would like to start using winols.
    There are other limiters?

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    Analyzing with WinOLS maps of potential, I identified, besides the well-known maps Driver's wish (794EE) and IQ Limiter f(T_FUEL) (783C6), a second map Driver's wish (7833E), which, in my opinion, it too should be changed.
    Below list the maps identified with WinOLS:
    1. Driver wish (794EE)
    2. Smoke map (78B6A)
    3. IQ limiter f(T_FUEL) (783C6)
    4. Driver wish 2 (7833E)
    5. EGR (71EBA)
    6. Turbo pressure (77D00)
    7. Turbo an overboost (VGT) (778DC)
    8. Boost limiter f(P_Atm) (77B10)
    9. Boost limiter f(IQ) (77F30)
    10. Rail pressure limiter f(T) (79C16)
    11. Duration limiter (724BA)
    12. Duration limiter (7278A)

    Here, instead, list the maps that you see in the ECM Titanium, but not in WinOLS:
    13. Rail pressure (7A5B6)
    14. Start Injection 1 (7321A)
    15. Start Injection 2 (746B0)
    16. Torque limiter f(RPM) (78878)
    17. Rail pressure limiter 2 (79E96)

    Why? With WinOLS I expect to see more? maps of the ECM, but the ECM must be all, or no?

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    winols shows the maps to simplify the thing, but you have to be you, that is, to identify the right map, the selections and tell them what curves to use as the axis... the driver of the ecm ? useful for those who do not have a knowledge of the specific unit where you operate.

    the map that you deem another pedal you're right, I think that too, but I detected by the diagnosis that does not make changes to its amendment, for this is not you, I loved it!

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    I looked at it, the limiter, which I have not reported ? modified in the best of ways, but you managed to unlock the flow of diesel fuel properly up to 70mm^3.
    Have you tested cos?? Don't expect miracles, you still have to do some changes before allowing it to go properly!

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    You Sandro, in these days I tried it. The impression ? good: up to 50% of the pedal, the engine progresses slowly, but always in a fluid manner, more than 50% of the thrust you feel, not strong but feels!
    Let's say that I like it, but I agree on the fact that we continue with the changes...
    With regard to the map that I've reported, in the ori, if I have understood to 90? temp of the diesel fuel, the ecu stops the fuel already? starting from 3000rpm. I wonder why, maybe there is the danger of a fire? If ? cos? perhaps the values to 0 and must be left at such? How would you have changed?
    In the meantime, for the record, I think I have identified the EGR SWITCH (the one that disables EGR) to the address 71B20. It is a map 1x1 and should be set to 0. You might want to verify?

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