View Results Poll: Increase injection Times

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  1. #1
    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di goku
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    according to me there are compromises,to increase the quantity injected, or is acting on the pressure(and therefore greater pressure at the same time=maggioe quantity), or you can compromise, and stretched a little the time of opening,and then with the same pressure increasing amounts..ultimately I would take toccado a little wntrambi for not putting too much strain with high pressures..
    IP

  2. #2
    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di bart
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    To me you are confusing the ideas...
    Found that to increase performance we need to inject more? diesel (in addition to other interventions), to get there? I can think of only 2 solutions: either increase the rail pressure, or increase the opening time of the injectors (or both).
    If you don't touch these 2 parameters, how can you introduce more? diesel fuel in the combustion chamber? Just raising limiters?
    IP

  3. #3
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    I am in favour of the increments, provided it doesn't go big, then too much fuel and too little air does not go well, then it will be inevitable to consider that.
    For more info, ask the trainer and see what he says...
    IP

  4. #4
    THE AVERAGE USER
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    Nice discussion!!! that it is clear that in one way or another, you change the time!!! or you do, or you do make it to the ecu..
    In a world of crazy normal is crazy
    IP

  5. #5
    Banned
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    Citazione Originally Written by Chris156 Visualizza Messaggio
    Nice discussion!!! that it is clear that in one way or another, you change the time!!! or you do, or you do make it to the ecu..
    I would say it is both.in the sense that if you don't touch the time but only the map to mount, say, the ecu will increase? times but still will not be able to overspend as c'? in the map time,so if you want to more diesel fuel, you must calculate everything for good, and see if with that time in the map stock the diesel that we can enter otherwise you have to stretch the times just that by doing so, then if the increase in beautiful and substantial, but also no everything that we give to the times we give in a moment that the manufacturer has not provided, and could even inject into the exhaust for the cos? say
    then the extension of time must necessarily be then revised to the point of beginning of injection, i.e., the advance because it is all related.
    ah, if we had not understood I am in favour of an increase of the injection time
    IP

  6. #6
    ACTIVE USER (OF) L'avatar di sportknight
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    depends on the ecu...the edc15, for example, from the pedal to manage a request of a diesel too low for in-tangible,so you have to act on the limiters, etc.. or more? easy still fool the ecu
    on edc16 scope ? pi? high and you are able to have good increases also by increasing the single application of the pedal..
    IP

  7. #7
    THE AVERAGE USER
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    Citazione Originally Written by sportknight Visualizza Messaggio
    depends on the ecu...the edc15, for example, from the pedal to manage a request of a diesel too low for in-tangible,so you have to act on the limiters, etc.. or more? easy still fool the ecu
    on edc16 scope ? pi? high and you are able to have good increases also by increasing the single application of the pedal..
    well...
    In a world of crazy normal is crazy
    IP

  8. #8
    THE ACTIVE USER L'avatar di munro
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    anyway guys please tell me is the history of the unit deceived or less because that's how I see you in the ecu is not deceived just a blessed marmitazza hot....
    I look forward to answers series on despite the post,I think,makes you smile....
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...
    IP

  9. #9
    THE AVERAGE USER
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    as I see the map time should be calxolata in function dwgli injectors and should not be touched because it represents the flow rate of the injectors as a function of pressure. if you change it means to cheat, and say to the ecu as if there were injectors smaller
    IP

  10. #10
    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di Ross
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    Let me contraddirti and let's demonstrate with an example: have you ever compared the files 2 drive the same, and with sw ecu different? Do it and you will understand that your idea does not ? correct. To be even more? explicit: take the file to a 147 ducati corse 170 hp and compare it with a 150 hp... know that mechanically, NOTHING changes (even if on some forums, there are various professors who say otherwise).
    Patience is the virtue of the strong, but what happens if they lose?
    IP

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