Opinion the map Duchy

[bart]

Tonight I decided to go from theory to practice, and since it's been a long time a friend asks me to mappargli the van, I decided to give him the gift of Christmas!
Cos? tonight I have abandoned (but only temporarily) my beloved EDC15 and I ventured into the EDC16! Not happy, just to add more difficulty, I decided to venture with WinOls.
I have to say that to me were two news?, then the avr? surely some bischerata...

I'm attaching the original map and the edited one:

No Damos or other help, for now I am limited to the Driver's Wish, the torque limiter and the map turbo.

The friend would like sopratturo reduce fuel consumption, but knowing him well, I know that you would like to go even a strong one, so I tried to change accordingly...
I would like to know how you think, what you've done, where I have gone wrong or exaggerated, and what I forgot...
Thanks in advance to those who take? join the discussion and sopratturo who to take? help me...

[msport (exil77grande)]

no, we did not fully maps the driver's wish are badly made all different increments also negative, etc, etc,the turbo pressure increment can go even if it's too busted but I see them increases negative then from the review,the torque limiter can go, but you left too soon.

[bart]

no, we did not fully maps the driver's wish are badly made all different increments also negative, etc, etc...

Hello msport, thanks for the reply!
If you like, I would try to learn more?...
Regarding the maps, DW, I found 3 different: the first is repeated 4 times, the second one 3 times and the third only, for a total of 8 maps pedal. I tried to respect them (imagining that they will be used in different conditions), considering the three different, intervening, and then individually and in a targeted manner on each, and then doing a copy paste of changes in each of the 3 on their respective pairs.
I have since then increases in proportion to the us? I thought that their function was to map 1 and 3 (and a couple in the glue on the maps repeated the same in the original) and I left unchanged the second (and its identical pairs) why? I thought that it would serve as to as ? made, it seems to me a map that can be used in standard conditions....
Here it seems to you that my reasoning functions, or are totally out of the way?

With regard to the gains, remaining on the maps peale, I with WinOls I see all of them positive value: from a few tenths up to a dozen points in the maximum value. Does not show me any point with a value less than the original...
Also, in what sense do you say that there are: too high? I have to give less?

...the turbo pressure increment can go even if it's too busted but I see them increases the negative and then review...

With regard to the map of the turbo, why? you say be too busted? I have changed in an area too small?
Also in this case, as for the DW, I found 3 maps repeated, and I intervened, using the same reasoning used for maps of the pedal.
Also in this case, WinOls shows me only positive gains (apart from a couple of punished that I have the correct one, why? significantly higher than those of the surrounding).

...the torque limiter can go, but you left too soon

So it would be suffuciente starting at a higher speed?

Thanks 1000 msport, and sorry for the multitude? of questions that I just did...

[bart]

I tried to correct the maps pedal and torque limiters on the basis of what I understand by reading the message msport: I would like to then ask if I have moved in the right direction: they must be good cos? or ? better if I make them all completely?
Thanks for the help

[msport (exil77grande)]

I have not abandoned it's just that now I can not help you as soon as I have 5 minutes ing tomorrow at the max I'll give you 2 tips simple enough,with what changes winols? why are you immediately went on the complicated?

[bart]

Thanks 1000 msport! I don't want to create too much trouble: look when you have time...
Having to leave, however, from scratch, I went straight on the hard...
Jokes aside: I tried with Titanium 1.49, but it was very clear the maps that proposed to me with the drivers, then I tried with WinOls, in order to see the actual values and to be able to better understand what (theoretically) I was doing and where I was speaking.
The result ? I found a billion maps, and among these I spotted a nice group of maps pedal, many torque limiters and some plan for the turbo...

[Chris156]

Bart but this duchy ? the 2.2 not the 1.9 ...
Anyway, to begin to change not to overdo it.. try to think and ponder on what to do ... follow the advice of msport..
or ought to understand how to inject and actually after you move accordingly, but ? a little more complicated if you don't know how to move..

[bart]

Bart but this duchy ? the 2.2 not the 1.9...

OPS! I apologize to all: you are right Chris156, ? really? a 2300cc straight! I don't know how can I have been wrong to write, who knows? what I was thinking! Perhaps the weariness of the late...
I apologize for the error and thank you Chris156 for the tip!

Anyway, to begin to change not to overdo it.. try to think and ponder on what to do ... follow the advice of msport..
or ought to understand how to inject and actually after you move accordingly, but ? a little more complicated if you don't know how to move..

Actually ? my first time, then you probably have the desire to do, that is associated with the lack of experience, I have played a bad joke...
In fact, my original problem ? just understand how much diesel you can give...

[msport (exil77grande)]

then bart,I am not here to make technical lessons type mg mbar etc etc, the thing would be too complex to explain, so then you do 2 straight elementary that will give you less hassle and still have their effects,first I'll give you a tip since winols I think among the best in the sw, but also the most complex to manage, I advise you to make a mod with the titanium and according to the maps that you from him and the table that tells you how to rpm and load and then the rpm and load and take you on the map that calls injection zoned by changing the + or - from 1500 rpm and 50% load, starting from an 8% increase up to 12%,then it goes to the maps enrichment, acceleration, and do the same thing but be careful, because if you do the mod to the main map, and without prejudice to the increase in and tells you copies on the similar maps you select not to copy on similar maps and make them one-by-one in the same way as the save a one-to-one if no very probably you find the maps completely wrong,then steps to the torque limiter always starting from the same rpm as in the other maps, and a 15% always usually one at a time,then you can give about 100-120 points to the map turbo pressure always respecting the rpm and load, and finally if you want you can give it a 3-4% to the rail pressure, and of course his limiter,with these changes you can already get something nice in maximum reliability and then possibly if you want to go more increases of not much a bit of everything and will adjust you.

[matd82]

then bart,I am not here to make technical lessons type mg mbar etc etc, the thing would be too complex to explain, so then you do 2 straight elementary that will give you less hassle and still have their effects,first I'll give you a tip since winols I think among the best in the sw, but also the most complex to manage, I advise you to make a mod with the titanium and according to the maps that you from him and the table that tells you how to rpm and load and then the rpm and load and take you on the map that calls injection zoned by changing the + or - from 1500 rpm and 50% load, starting from an 8% increase up to 12%,then it goes to the maps enrichment, acceleration, and do the same thing but be careful, because if you do the mod to the main map, and without prejudice to the increase in and tells you copies on the similar maps you select not to copy on similar maps and make them one-by-one in the same way as the save a one-to-one if no very probably you find the maps completely wrong,then steps to the torque limiter always starting from the same rpm as in the other maps, and a 15% always usually one at a time,then you can give about 100-120 points to the map turbo pressure always respecting the rpm and load, and finally if you want you can give it a 3-4% to the rail pressure, and of course his limiter,with these changes you can already get something nice in maximum reliability and then possibly if you want to go more increases of not much a bit of everything and will adjust you.

you can also increase the map time to a but of 640 points.
map advance max 2.5 degrees, the equivalent of 105 points about!