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    Question Difference alfa 147 150 and 170 hp

    Good evening guys.
    Since about a year I have a 147 Q2 with dpf 150 cv. A few days ago discussing on the topic rimappe etc, I had doubts as to whether the 147 170 hp ducati corse, had the same mechanical structure, the front and simila, and as a result, if that difference 20cv with respect to my it was just a matter of the ecu, because as far as I know the engine is a 1.9 lt jtdm. Can you tell me something about it?
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    The difference is both in the aesthetics from what I know.
    The ECU does not have mirror-like hw (and of course the sw) and have the motor shaft of different material.
    The cams are completely different.
    The head is aluminum.
    The turbine is smaller (I guess to give more torque at low rpm)
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    Consequently, put simply the map of a ducati corse on mine would be a job done badly, right?

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    Citazione Originally Written by X4N Visualizza Messaggio
    Consequently, put simply the map of a ducati corse on mine would be a job done badly, right?
    According to me it could be an idea, not necessarily wrong. Or however it could be a good starting point and then do the customizations more.

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    I did some research on the net:
    the high pressure pump of 150 Hp Q2 and the ducati is the same, Bosch code for both 55234362
    the injectors are different, the 150 (bosch code 0445110243), while the 170 (045110341)
    the turbine in appearance is the same which is a Honeywell Garrett model GTA1749V but the codes are different, for the 150 46793334 while for the ducati 55214063, then there could be small differences between the two, but I think not so substantial.

    Given that I understand very little tuning because I'm trying to learn from the discussions of the forum, according to me you can say copy (certainly not by doing a CTRL+C, CTRL+V of course) the maps of the 170 on the 150, since many of the components are similar in the two engines, or at least compare the two maps for inspiration on how to make the changes.

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    Citazione Originally Written by switing63 Visualizza Messaggio
    I did some research on the net:
    the high pressure pump of 150 Hp Q2 and the ducati is the same, Bosch code for both 55234362
    the injectors are different, the 150 (bosch code 0445110243), while the 170 (045110341)
    the turbine in appearance is the same which is a Honeywell Garrett model GTA1749V but the codes are different, for the 150 46793334 while for the ducati 55214063, then there could be small differences between the two, but I think not so substantial.

    Given that I understand very little tuning because I'm trying to learn from the discussions of the forum, according to me you can say copy (certainly not by doing a CTRL+C, CTRL+V of course) the maps of the 170 on the 150, since many of the components are similar in the two engines, or at least compare the two maps for inspiration on how to make the changes.
    And that you waiting to try? You just have to align the files on the maps that you want to increase copy the data on your file, save the mod and load it in the car. Then try gradually without overdoing it ready go, feel if there is something strange maybe do a log of confrontation with the ori, and then with the mod

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    you might compare the maps to see where to intervene and begin to try

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    Unfortunately I don't have from where to draw a map of a ducati corse, and personally I mean little... He has offered to remap my directly, a connects to 150€, but I had come to doubt whether it were not better to put directly that of the ducati, so as to avoid any errors.

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    Citazione Originally Written by X4N Visualizza Messaggio
    Unfortunately I don't have from where to draw a map of a ducati corse, and personally I mean little... He has offered to remap my directly, a connects to 150€, but I had come to doubt whether it were not better to put directly that of the ducati, so as to avoid any errors.
    Hello, but your colleague is a professional? or an amateur to the fray? to do damage it takes a few..........

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    Citazione Originally Written by passion engines Visualizza Messaggio
    Hello, but your colleague is a professional? or an amateur to the fray? to do damage it takes a few..........
    Honestly I could not tell you if it is a professional, or better..if it speaks well for the company, however, is something that is "in house" we say, while having him already remapped several cars and to be heard, are to be found all fine.
    In the case in which accettasssi of me to do that, he said that would give me both the files, both the original and remapped...I could at that point get review from someone here in the forum? Or are there any special requirements?

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