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    THE AVERAGE USER
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    opinion the map astra h 1.7 cdti from a preparer known parts of my

    hi to all
    I will tell you a little story, and why I'm posting this file here edc16c9 694_476
    then you pretty much have I done to map my astra,as I had already written in this forum, by a well-known trainer in sicily "eastern"....

    a very serious, but apparently, heard good things about it from various people, etc... makes me a great price, go there, and I opened the ecu and makes me a tour of the BDM port the 1st time..... in my astra the control unit and close to the wheel arch,then each time the wax to assemble and disassemble the wheel with the loss of time and burns,given the strong braking during the tests.... all the way, although I have done about 3 files and the car was going very well,I'll go back to the house nice quiet doing some pull to see if there is problem of recovery and it seemed like they were not there,even if you don't pull too because here in sicily it was the summer of 42? degrees on the highway and I didn't want to "eat" nothing......... then one night I came back from the outside , there was a nice long straight and I think "mo now the ironing board as a whole, and we see how it is".... well, and here the problems begin...the machine goes into recovery as soon as I pass the 180-200 in 5a at 4500-4600 rpm...

    the contact referring to problems on me, but no ? impossible,no ? question of the map, another car identical to yours (same hw and sw) has the same map and print tot miles now without any problem etc..... but either way, there I go,in the meantime, I increase a little push at the top (say 3200) and I drop the torque is low because every so often tended to slip the clutch... remount the wheel to the ecu etc (says via obd could make it read or write) the greeting allotment for my city,I try again and, worse, worse.... basically, if I'm more than 5-10 seconds on the tablet of 5a over 4 thousand rpm, must be in recovery for over-pressure turbo (p0234-5A)....

    I recall back to my city, and I do,watch ? impossible,of the map ? perfect....I, being stubborn, we agree for another day,I rivado and try 5 file (always mounted and smontanto the wheel and the fender,because it was always in the bdm)...even I try one to say that "less than the original" as values, and actually the car was going very slowly...but the error ? checked the same,even if after more time that I was in the tablet, say about 20-25 seconds (before instead of after 5-10 seconds, it gave the error), I shall transmit the file with which I had arrived (i.e. the second one powered up) and tells me to check the following things:

    -map sensor (changed)

    -tubes depression (changed,one was cracked, but did not ? nothing changed)

    -solenoid valve-pierburg (the one that adjusts the depression that you send to the actuator for the variable geometry,changed, and also this without results)

    -disassemble the fan and clean the variable geometry from sludge and deposits (done,? true was pretty dirty,I've improved ,but I have not solved the problem)

    -westgate (what ? the actuator of the variable geometry,checked,cleaned and lubricated, and it's perfectly tells me the mechanic)

    the mean've checked and replaced the pieces , and I get to say,will be the turbine,you need to change it...... and here I begin to suspicion,because the turbine does not burn a drop of oil, post perfect , the impeller is perfect , no game, not even millimetre...
    I do the tune and I do send the file to the original bed in the bdm, and the file that I have everything (even if you reveal different) now always done by him, while shortly after I drive-I read the map via obd with mpps v13 and I'm making a comparison with the modified file that I had sent him...

    well, what to say between the two modified files, the "my" read by obd and the "his" written in the bdm, there are things that are completely opposite,the changes made to the cabbage,the table that seem to be made by a child of 5 years, things touched here and there with no sense... now I'm attaching here all the files, the original bdm, modified bdm, and changed the bed in the obd to me... and let's see what comes out from the real experts
    File Allegati File Attachments

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    while if you compare with this one, the bed in the obd seems to have changed so made as "right".... can me was wrong to send you the files ? pero hw and sw in those sent by him correspond (original BDM and amended written bdm) (694_476)

    http://www.professionalchiptuning.ne...html#post10894

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    THE ACTIVE USER L'avatar di ugoboss
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    I can assure you that this machine to read it in the bdm and serial with mpps can give you those differences that you see, I don't know why but ? also happened to me, as far as the map in my humble opinion can give you a malfunction, you provatyo with the original? definitely not a mistake, then I ask you but how much you consume this machine?
    ugo ---- president A.E.P.

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    Citazione Originally Written by ugoboss Visualizza Messaggio
    I can assure you that this machine to read it in the bdm and serial with mpps can give you those differences that you see, I don't know why but ? also happened to me, as far as the map in my humble opinion can give you a malfunction, you provatyo with the original? definitely not a mistake, then I ask you but how much you consume this machine?
    yes, but those differences between what is read on the serial line from me (but always done by the mapper) and that can be downloaded here on the forum .ori 694_476 ? identical
    the usual 4 changes maps pedals,times,rail , egr most anything outside driver.... but lambda,the quantity injected,turbo pressure, etc match perfectly,just like I said the mapper,i.e. that the pressure turbo had not touched by the map....
    however, the car is fine,if it were not for this problems recovery for over-pressure turbo.... I have not yet tried it with the original,because I'm at the point I know what to write,given that surely the file FLASHASTRA1originale ? totally different from the one read by me in the obd.... I could instead write the 694_476 of the forum,which, according to me ? the true .ori... you open on ecm this forum and the read obd and you'll see that this matches everything
    on fuel consumption I can't complain... ? although there is always an "old" 1.7 isuzu, in a city with 20€ I do about 200km with pace (not slow nor too fast), while on the highway at 130 do 240km every 20€ without any problem...also count that ? 5 speed my

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    For me, the original who has sent you not ? correct, also give the 35 % on the times it seems to me normal.
    Without touching the limiters turbo, it seems to me normal that with all of the diesel fuel, the pressure of the turbo runs out of control.
    For me, the map would have to be redone, unless it's wrong to compare it with the original file

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    Citazione Originally Written by franco75 Visualizza Messaggio
    For me, the original who has sent you not ? correct, also give the 35 % on the times it seems to me normal.
    Without touching the limiters turbo, it seems to me normal that with all of the diesel fuel, the pressure of the turbo runs out of control.
    For me, the map would have to be redone, unless it's wrong to compare it with the original file
    it is, in fact, I also think that the original file you sent me does not ? correct... while ? correct the one found here on the forum,that this... then you have to compare the read obd.rar with this and sees that they are identical, and the changes made seem to be done with policy.... http://www.professionalchiptuning.ne...html#post10894
    why do not you find it normal, 35%?? fumacchia a while, of course,especially over the 3000mila laps,but nothing out of the ordinary... there are certain tdi that seem to be at the coal.... all the way I made a small test with a seat 1.9 tdi mapped, and I gave him a lot of road,maybe too much....
    through diagnosis opcom as the pressure I have every once in a 1.5 peak , and 1.25-1.3 constants to 4 thousand rpm... you are raised a little the pressure turbo after I cleaned the geometry of the turbine...here there is a my video where you can see the pressure before the cleaning of the geometry)


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    bisognorebbe have the ori correct to make a comparison so you do not get to a conclusion
    while the others are still talking about us, we have already solved the problem
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    Citazione Originally Written by legendaryslave Visualizza Messaggio
    bisognorebbe have the ori correct to make a comparison so you do not get to a conclusion
    my hw and sw 694_476.... now here on the forum, there is a .ori with these codes,and it seems to be the right one,because, precisely, it corresponds in many values that are not addressed in the map...

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    I also compared with that present in the forum, the map of time for me has excessive increases, even with that file I see increases of 35%.
    According to me, so you have too much fuel in the delay

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    Citazione Originally Written by franco75 Visualizza Messaggio
    I also compared with that present in the forum, the map of time for me has excessive increases, even with that file I see increases of 35%.
    According to me, so you have too much fuel in the delay
    it is the map time ? the only one that those increases of 35% compared to the other two golds (the forum) and FLASHASTRA1originale
    you do realize that there is also a bit of advance of fuel injection,so I don't think is all diesel "thrown" vacuum.... also why not throw in the only smoke and ? still...the highest it goes really well for my tastes.... only that it goes into protection

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