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    Citazione Originally Written by maxgen Visualizza Messaggio
    And they should not touch them? And the rest of my questions? :-)
    maps pedal are the ones that you mentioned, and as the area of the increase I think that we then of course, the logic of increase is not good and you also see how you like it and also have increased starting from too low, as already you had made a note,map, lambda, I already gave a tip then if you want to follow good, otherwise do as you see fit,the torque limiter is done badly I noticed the lowest point as the increments for the address clutch, but then either the exchange rate or increases the good, the torque limiter but with increases more low,torque limiter 1 and 2 is not going well and at this point you can put back the original,one of the limiters of diesel, you'll find him immediately after that kind of limiter pair that you have changed out the driver giving him the 5% fixed,the diesel can go but I don't know if you've noticed that there are increases in the negative than the original and then fix it,the timing of an overboost you have given increments insignificativi but if you want them you can leave so,the maps rail beamlines are 2,the second adjust as the first,this is the good work.
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    Citazione Originally Written by maxgen Visualizza Messaggio
    And they should not touch them? And the rest of my questions? :-)
    My advice, as I already said is to start with the maps the pedal torque request.......) the lim torque maps, turbo (if you look in 2d I find another before the one in the driver), and the maps of the rail with its limiters. This to learn to feel how the car reacts to changes in the map and so you don't do damage. And then continue with the rest, maybe beginning to apply the various formulas that you find on the forum about the calculations afr, duration, injections, etc, etc, Impossible to understand everything at once. And you're lucky that you have a driver that is complete enough and clear on the car

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    ok..thanks to all...I try to change a bit

    I forgot...
    You said:"one of the limiters of diesel, you'll find him immediately after that kind of limiter pair that you have changed out the driver giving him the 5% fixed"
    Can you tell me exactly what address is it located? Unfortunately I do not remember well,
    In addition to the ecm about the pressure thai is giving me a map... where is the other?
    Is to finish and not get bored more, how to map the pedal, for example, if arrival at the max at 18 to 20% increase okay ?
    Grazieeee

    No pressure thai haha...damn the t9! I mean rail pressure

    I look forward to the news.
    PS. True speech does not increase at low revs but then to improve precisely the readiness to low where and how you should intervene? Thanks
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    Happened to me on some of the croma and the 159 150 that eliminating the dpf egr and swirl l is "svuotatassero" at the bottom..
    When that happens, do a 3-4% more on the maps vgt from 0 to 1500 rpm and from 0 to 15mm3

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    Citazione Originally Written by maxgen Visualizza Messaggio
    I look forward to the news.
    PS. True speech does not increase at low revs but then to improve precisely the readiness to low where and how you should intervene? Thanks
    On my own I started with 1000 rpm and 10% pedal to hear the answer to the minimum pressure.....obviously something light and then gradually increasing. For that, I say to you that you need to do a little testing to find one you like

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    Ok... starting from 1000 Rpm and 10% pedal, but with that increase in terms of percentage? Type from the 6/7% up to gradually get to 20% ? The tests I'm doing, the machine is improving, but I always have the problem between 1000 and 1800 rpm where it is dead!
    Also ecm titanium what would be the maps vgt?
    As well as that of the limiter of the diesel out of the driver ... would you tell Me the address?
    Thanks

    Citazione Originally Written by maxgen Visualizza Messaggio
    Ok... starting from 1000 Rpm and 10% pedal, but with that increase in terms of percentage? Type from the 6/7% up to gradually get to 20% ? The tests I'm doing, the machine is improving, but I always have the problem between 1000 and 1800 rpm where it is dead!
    Also ecm titanium what would be the maps vgt?
    As well as that of the limiter of the diesel out of the driver ... would you tell Me the address?
    Thanks
    ps.su ecm titanium map the call control variable geometry (VGT) that should be cited in munro, but an increase of 0.7% almost all (I don't think it makes sense to you, but I'm afraid I have to scrub the turbine)...
    I would like to increase, says munro from 0 to 1500 rpm and from 0 to 15 mm3 to about 3/4% but when I go to both in table and in 2d on ecm titanium starts from 1000 rpm and 5mm3? how could I do?
    in short...I want to solve the problem of slow from 1000 to 1800 rpm...that's about it. However, I ask only the courtesy of telling me in terms of the percentage of the possible gains as did munro so I is easier to edit. It's true what they say errecinque to do the tests (which all in all I'm doing) but I'm not going to upload too many maps on the ecu for fear that when writing something goes wrong!
    thanks for the patience

    Citazione Originally Written by maxgen Visualizza Messaggio
    ps.su ecm titanium map the call control variable geometry (VGT) that should be cited in munro, but an increase of 0.7% almost all (I don't think it makes sense to you, but I'm afraid I have to scrub the turbine)...
    I would like to increase, says munro from 0 to 1500 rpm and from 0 to 15 mm3 to about 3/4% but when I go to both in table and in 2d on ecm titanium starts from 1000 rpm and 5mm3? how could I do?
    in short...I want to solve the problem of slow from 1000 to 1800 rpm...that's about it. However, I ask only the courtesy of telling me in terms of the percentage of the possible gains as did munro so I is easier to edit. It's true what they say errecinque to do the tests (which all in all I'm doing) but I'm not going to upload too many maps on the ecu for fear that when writing something goes wrong!
    thanks for the patience
    help me please
    Last edited by msport (exil77grande); 26-10-2016 to 17:30

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    Parties to modify the vgt from 1000 rpm to 1500-2000 rpm and 5mm3 up to 15mm3 a 3-4% more than the rest of the map vgt return it ori..
    In short, you have to make a way to stay slightly more closed geometry turbine in the range of rpm where you feel the vacuum if it is not enough to be helped with a bit of diesel in the most transient

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    Citazione Originally Written by munro Visualizza Messaggio
    Parties to modify the vgt from 1000 rpm to 1500-2000 rpm and 5mm3 up to 15mm3 a 3-4% more than the rest of the map vgt return it ori..
    In short, you have to make a way to stay slightly more closed geometry turbine in the range of rpm where you feel the vacuum if it is not enough to be helped with a bit of diesel in the most transient
    thanks a lot..
    regarding the increases in the pedal, according to you, starting from about the 6% increase and reach approximately 20% okay?
    but the increments must be the same for all the rows starting from 1000/1500 revs increasing from 10% up to 100% gradually or increase gradually on both columns and rows? I hope I explained it well!
    about the diesel that you say in that range , ecm titanium is reported to map "fuel injected" to the address 1CDBF6 or at the time of injection?

    Citazione Originally Written by maxgen Visualizza Messaggio
    thanks a lot..
    regarding the increases in the pedal, according to you, starting from about the 6% increase and reach approximately 20% okay?
    but the increments must be the same for all the rows starting from 1000/1500 revs increasing from 10% up to 100% gradually or increase gradually on both columns and rows? I hope I explained it well!
    about the diesel that you say in that range , ecm titanium is reported to map "fuel injected" to the address 1CDBF6 or at the time of injection?
    oh, I forgot, and sorry for the post in more..
    the 2 limiters of diesel are at the address that it goes 1CC032 to 1CC0AE and 1CC114 to 1CC216? if ok, as they increase? type all of the 3/4%?

    in the expectation of tips, I'll post the map that I edited and uploaded...the car seems to go better but I have not been able to test it to duty in the fifth and sixth gear..
    suggestions please

    Citazione Originally Written by maxgen Visualizza Messaggio
    in the expectation of tips, I'll post the map that I edited and uploaded...the car seems to go better but I have not been able to test it to duty in the fifth and sixth gear..
    suggestions please
    and anyway in general it must be better, but despite the fact that, as suggeritomi from munro, I have increased to 4% the VGT in the range concerned, the machine is always very slow before 1800 rpm...I was been suggested that in this case I should increase the diesel fuel in this range but to be honest on ecm titanium I do not remember exactly which map I have to tap...
    ps. but how ever if you are with a wire throttle to the minimum, type in second gear, I feel as if he and not the diesel? in practice, the machine seems to accelerate slightly and then brake, and so on, and this thing with the wire of the accelerator repeats itself..what can it be? then if accellero the machine rooms of laps on a regular basis without hesitation!
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    Are you sure that mechanically everything is ok? Do a log or get in the car with another and monitor some parameters, type the required torque effective torque,quantity of fuel,pressure goal is the actual turbo goal is effective,controls the vgt is from the log that physically are you sure that works correctly? all the tubes are ok? The variable geometry and free to move correctly? Monitors the mass intake air with the egr closed it must stay on the 450-500mg at a minimum and about 1200-1300mg to full throttle.. it controls everything perfectly, even putting the map ori, if all ok then adjusts a bit of the map...

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    Citazione Originally Written by munro Visualizza Messaggio
    Are you sure that mechanically everything is ok? Do a log or get in the car with another and monitor some parameters, type the required torque effective torque,quantity of fuel,pressure goal is the actual turbo goal is effective,controls the vgt is from the log that physically are you sure that works correctly? all the tubes are ok? The variable geometry and free to move correctly? Monitors the mass intake air with the egr closed it must stay on the 450-500mg at a minimum and about 1200-1300mg to full throttle.. it controls everything perfectly, even putting the map ori, if all ok then adjusts a bit of the map...
    I had everything checked a little while ago and it was ok... The parameters with *********** they were good! The only thing is that the rod of the pneumatic valve of the turbo I can't see why the alfa 159 is hidden

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