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    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di tranky
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    Citazione Originally Written by tidus1985 Visualizza Messaggio
    The speech of the advances is not a simple matter of quick response, to be sure should be tested in conjunction with a pressure probe in the room and the temperature in the room, but on average it seems that on the mjet 8v up to 25 degrees does not give problems, but I repeat, it seems, is not an exact science without the proper tools. With regard to the injections you are wrong, 5 degrees post tdc nn are too many, too many are 12/13, 5 degrees at 4500 are a luxury, in the mid range, you can stay up to 8/9 degrees post tdc for noj to have too much heat, and smoke; hence, anxhe because it helps and not a little to spool the turbo.
    I agree that it is not an easy thing, it's a year almost that I have been in the way of the ecu (they are not of the craft in the slightest) and so the study advances the chaos in comparison to the rest.
    What you say to probe the combustion ****th e amateur is impossible/time consuming, then for the purposes of the study is not a viable solution then less data to be faith
    Honestly, I was hoping for your intervention, so much because I studied a lot with your post (thanks for sharing), so why are we talking about the same car you know like the palm of your hand.
    Coming back to degrees then according to you the table that I posted I can safely stay to those values calculated ?
    That is, from 22gradi ori to 70mm3 I can safely set the 31gradi to 100mm3 without too many problems?
    I speak of course of advice for experience and not of calculation based on nothing as you said before.. only opinionismo
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    Haven says jack, noj and an exact science, and he tests it has made a lot more of me!

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    Citazione Originally Written by tidus1985 Visualizza Messaggio
    Haven says jack, noj and an exact science, and he tests it has made a lot more of me!
    I have no doubt.. I have read many of your post and I have an idea of your preparation
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    Citazione Originally Written by tranky Visualizza Messaggio
    I agree that it is not an easy thing, it's a year almost that I have been in the way of the ecu (they are not of the craft in the slightest) and so the study advances the chaos in comparison to the rest.
    What you say to probe the combustion ****th e amateur is impossible/time consuming, then for the purposes of the study is not a viable solution then less data to be faith
    Honestly, I was hoping for your intervention, so much because I studied a lot with your post (thanks for sharing), so why are we talking about the same car you know like the palm of your hand.
    Coming back to degrees then according to you the table that I posted I can safely stay to those values calculated ?
    That is, from 22gradi ori to 70mm3 I can safely set the 31gradi to 100mm3 without too many problems?
    I speak of course of advice for experience and not of calculation based on nothing as you said before.. only opinionismo
    You know that if you slap on a pylon of reinforced concrete, the tear down? T have written in clear letters 25 degrees max (28 for maps on an engine mod) , you can go to post up to 10. If you are in need of 31 degrees to 100 mm3, put 25 in the map and you will have 6 degrees of inj after tdc. It is clear stu fattu? Don't worry about the tones I and he we are used to

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    Citazione Originally Written by Errecinque Visualizza Messaggio
    You know that if you slap on a pylon of reinforced concrete, the tear down? T have written in clear letters 25 degrees max (28 for maps on an engine mod) , you can go to post up to 10. If you are in need of 31 degrees to 100 mm3, put 25 in the map and you will have 6 degrees of inj after tdc. It is clear stu fattu? Don't worry about the tones I and he we are used to
    If I slam against a pillar, you move before him to me, and anyway if you do not slam your head I enjoy only half.. you know!
    perfect.. all clear! Thank you to all 3 for the clarification
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    Hello tranky, I agree with Errecinque... time ago, in a trial I need 32 degrees of injection, and I used the 25 ppms and 7 dpms... when I do these tests I don't go more than 8 degrees dpms (10 for me and' the maximum), however, you have to try and rely as much as possible, of your feelings since that you, like me, you are just a fan and do not have the right equipment! The 156 in question constrictor digesting quietly in the 25 degrees of advance, on another occasion, a 147 instead murava a lot (in both cases, the fumes acceptable)...

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    Citazione Originally Written by alxcrs Visualizza Messaggio
    Hello tranky, I agree with Errecinque... time ago, in a trial I need 32 degrees of injection, and I used the 25 ppms and 7 dpms... when I do these tests I don't go more than 8 degrees dpms (10 for me and' the maximum), however, you have to try and rely as much as possible, of your feelings since that you, like me, you are just a fan and do not have the right equipment! The 156 in question constrictor digesting quietly in the 25 degrees of advance, on another occasion, a 147 instead murava a lot (in both cases, the fumes acceptable)...
    Thank you friend, I certainly commend what has been said and I don't go over 24 degrees, at least on the first test, the less I'm clear that in ppms, I have the threshold of non-masonry and the dpms is below the threshold of risk declared.
    I assume anyway that the 156 it-yourself option which is mentioned both a 16v and from what has been said above has threshold degree greater than 8v.. or maybe not, and it's a 8v.. it was so much to say..
    Thank you all for the clarification.. it is hard to learn such information if it is not shared by those in the know and kicked us in the head..
    You did a great job. Thanks 1k
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    ah sorry for the 159 I mean with the original map is not modified

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    Citazione Originally Written by flamingsn3Ak3r Visualizza Messaggio
    ah sorry for the 159 I mean with the original map is not modified
    Get a diagnosis and check things out actual before saying certain statements, because you might be mistaken..
    1) there is a limiter advances, and over 30 degrees is not to be
    2) the value of 40 degrees is not used as it does not use the injection which is given that value
    3) also on your bmw rivedrei good things

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    Citazione Originally Written by jacktheripper2 Visualizza Messaggio
    Get a diagnosis and check things out actual before saying certain statements, because you might be mistaken..
    1) there is a limiter advances, and over 30 degrees is not to be
    2) the value of 40 degrees is not used as it does not use the injection which is given that value
    3) also on your bmw rivedrei good things
    I love.. beyond a certain point, you walls to the beast, the factors can be many, other than the limiter because the rail pressure does not support, the time is not enough or the inj are worth...
    Friend take this opportunity to ask you a question...you know in that area is leased, this limiter advances on edc16c39 alfa/fiat (in my case) ?
    I tried a sieve but I have not found anything about it...
    Thanks
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