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[munro]

then cicciogsr before this post vengafra intended I accept your apology and I offer my if I do not think that you should but somehow we have arrived at this situation where I have no problems to do it..? c'? a for?! and I have to say that your intent to change your style and attitude in the post with your posted above just posted ? in sharp conflict with what you charge as a change of attitude..
to be more understandable, I will say that if one responds apparently as you have just done you turning only around the questions but not giving any concrete answer or at least an anticipation of exactly this..bh?? we are always l?..your attitude does not change...and what you think you know you keep for yourself and not put it in the discussion of the other...
regardless of all of this for? your opinion as such ? reason of maximum respect but conclaratamente not leading to no conclusion or starting point for reasoning with relevant and constructive with what you are asked in the post...
then you do not wish to respond to the thread and sign this ? your sacred right, but at least in the post that you write try to be less dispersive in response to specific questions..
to return a p? in the topic, and the more the technician will report my experience "field" with the injection pumps bosch P7100 or the like that? those in line with mechanical adjustment of all the parameters..
well I have noticed for example that partendoda a flow of 270 ccm diesel with these pumps with an excursion to the rack of the piston 17mm if incrementavo the stroke of the latter also to 21 mm, the maximum for the P7100(maybe tezzero or lumaracing can confirm) the total quantity of diesel fuel also increases up to 350cc but the power in spite of the diesel fuel in most remains almost the same! all what you get ? a fumosit? exaggerated and egt temperatures rising dangerously why ? the obvious sign that all of that fuel in the most did not lengthen the duration of the injection going "off time" to get power and going in the post-combustion chamber...
of against always on these pumps, I noticed that, leaving almost unchanged the "rack of compressors which are" more or less original, but by mounting the pump unit larger or camshafts of the pumps with the most lift I noticed a definite increase in power and a fumosit? almost irrillevante ancheavendo the same quantity? cc fuel injected...all this always with the times in advance, or as like to say to you of the beginning of injection is always the same!! this must also reflect in the light of that the much-maligned document the discussion on the topic from me posted and then deleted

[cicciogsr]

maybe when I write I do not s? express well, let's take a file and analyze it together with you in advance that I don't always have the chance? to stay at the pc place the files in my drive an old jtd cos? we try to think about the time of the injection and advance of course I can answer based on my opinion and experience a exact methodology ? hard to find-why? there are too many variables and approximations in the game, the formulas that you mentioned before in the last post I wrote that can go well on the card then you have to check if they really are ? carried out there? you ? set in the map, it was not my intention to be vague, I try to make the experience with you, I don't want you to think that? that I think is correct and indeed I learn from your skills...

[cicciogsr]

injection time: 7cd10 7cac8 7c880
advance: 7e3f4 7e5f4

seems like an ecu simple but in its simplicity? ? 't understand why? the maps are not defined and framed with a pattern as in edc16 axes lead to the deception... now let's take a look and try to find a correlation between these two maps, neglecting the effects of all the other...

[cicciogsr]

the maximum value of the injection time should be 1151 us while the maximum value in the tab in advance ? about 20 degrees

[munro]

ciccio I have no way to see the files on the pc because for some reason to me unknown, the only sw of editing that I work a p? on the pc, and winols demo, but as I think you know this does not allow you to view a file from the ecu breck point for breck point so please what I ask of you ? you're the one i "our eyes" in the file, or at least consistent with your time if you can postaredegli screen where simple words can not explain your concepts...
at least until the lighthouse format the pc to resolve this issue...
returning to the us, and "our file study" we were at 1151 microseconds maximum time tinj and about 20? degrees the maximum of the beginning of the injection...what do you want us to understand, kindly?
and especially these two maximum values, respectively, how many laps we have them?? or for your explanation of the rpm should not be considered??

[cicciogsr]

try to find a sw that allows you to view the maps do screen ? too dispersive cos? we see involve a p? all, in engines with commonrail the time of injection z-axis of the map in question ? related to the. of fuel and the injection pressure for now there are no speed? rotation in the game, now the value 1151 if we do not relate to the other two coordinates is of no avail, for that ecu ? the injection time necessary to inject the maximum flow rate allowed in theory to the injectors to the maximum pressure that can? ensure the fuel injection system... now you tell me which are the other two coordinates are related to 1151 a p? of commitment on the part of all, I'm putting but papp? ready I do not mean to give the answer why? then I take to the professor and the gi? mene you have said enough... I'm trying to explain my vision there give? an policy exact, but I hope that we'll find it together.. of course we talk about advance I can explain to you what are the maps a for a with bp and off-set.. etc.. these notions I'd like to give her for granted, otherwise we go off-topic.. place the tables in a map of the times, and one of the advance...

[munro]

for edc15 in the map times, we have the coordinate rpm and rail pressure, and those numbers need to be converted to 0,496 or 0,946 I don't remember well...
while the advances we have always for the edc15 rpm and the iq of the coordinates and the descriptor has to be converted from one to the degrees of the factor 46 the cio? for each of the 46 points corresponds to a degree....
for the sw goes on well without a screen because to operate any sw I have to format the pc and then something long...
p.s:cos'? the offset?

[cicciogsr]

first, I wrote that the value of 1151 ? related to the flow rate to be injected and the pressure of injection, then it means that that number ? tied to the rail pressure and quantity? diesel fuel and not as you say the rpm and pressure...in the axis, you have pressure, and iq.. for down payments ? ok ... the axis of the advances are not well defined in this ecu that seems simple, but instead deceives... and then you them you need to frame for the logic and the similarity with the map of the times.

[munro]

the only thing that I can think of that have in common the map times and the ancipo and the iq...on the basis of wing iq, the ecu increases the advance to give "tempo2 the diesel fuel injected to burn... at least logically....

[cicciogsr]

perfect, then, in this way, in the map you can evaluate the advance for the amount? diesel introduced originally... in a few words to inject x diesel injection must begin to y degrees...this ? the theory we have to see if in diagnosis, we find the values that are in the map... if it's so? was once you have determined how much to inject, we can calculate the relative angle of the beginning and check that once made the length in degrees of the injection there is consistency with the advance ... I'd like that as well the people who have more? experience for me to participate-for example, I'd like to hear the opinion of people who map for years as administrators, etc..