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    thanks for the tips.
    However, I would like to make you a partaker of a thing, but just to see if to trust or not what it says on the web. Anything away from those who have the patience to give some tips that you definitely are in good faith and constructive. But, unfortunately, there are too many conflicting opinions and the inexperienced people should obviously be in confusion.

    The attached map has been purchased...I repeat "PURCHASED" !!Of course, I would never say who did it out of respect for the user and I do not want that others can copy it for free, so much the spirit of a forum is to help each other right?... even if it is not always the case!!!

    The problem is that this map I had already been torn to pieces long ago. Reading on all the forums , I have never seen that someone said : "this map should be good," and applies not only to the map by me attached, but for all the maps that people attach hoping to get constructive suggestions. Then check the rabbit from the hat and tells you in private :"if you want a map good , where the car goes very well and in safety , you can do that, but I pay"

    About, precisely, the attached map and "PAID" when I decided to defappare the drive physically with a straight pipe and electronically , a guy who works for a dealership, alpha , has had the kind patience of disattivarmi regeneration and show me some retouching to the map.
    From then on, I have come to the current map certainly wrong, but some have said that is not too bad, others that it is by trashing.
    I'd like to know who is right or wrong but I think it will be impossible.
    Only ones anyone to post a map "PAID" and the only ones all the mappers to postarne a FREE
    so then will be torn to pieces regardless.
    sorry for the outburst, however, there is too much confusion
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    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di cinqueturbo
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    Citazione Originally Written by maxgen Visualizza Messaggio
    thanks for the tips.
    However, I would like to make you a partaker of a thing, but just to see if to trust or not what it says on the web. Anything away from those who have the patience to give some tips that you definitely are in good faith and constructive. But, unfortunately, there are too many conflicting opinions and the inexperienced people should obviously be in confusion.

    The attached map has been purchased...I repeat "PURCHASED" !!Of course, I would never say who did it out of respect for the user and I do not want that others can copy it for free, so much the spirit of a forum is to help each other right?... even if it is not always the case!!!

    The problem is that this map I had already been torn to pieces long ago. Reading on all the forums , I have never seen that someone said : "this map should be good," and applies not only to the map by me attached, but for all the maps that people attach hoping to get constructive suggestions. Then check the rabbit from the hat and tells you in private :"if you want a map good , where the car goes very well and in safety , you can do that, but I pay"

    About, precisely, the attached map and "PAID" when I decided to defappare the drive physically with a straight pipe and electronically , a guy who works for a dealership, alpha , has had the kind patience of disattivarmi regeneration and show me some retouching to the map.
    From then on, I have come to the current map certainly wrong, but some have said that is not too bad, others that it is by trashing.
    I'd like to know who is right or wrong but I think it will be impossible.
    Only ones anyone to post a map "PAID" and the only ones all the mappers to postarne a FREE
    so then will be torn to pieces regardless.
    sorry for the outburst, however, there is too much confusion
    I quoto munro who has the answer on page 4 message #38..

    with a little study, logic and patience of the systems, is only to understand what you want to achieve and the clutch when you change it..

    there are a lot of mods useless beyond that start at 400 rpm with increments etc.,
    "The only thing that stands between you and your goal are the********* continue to tell you why you can not reach it."

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    Just to understand how to move... the slippage of The clutch, the wear and tear, is depended only on how you made the map "torque limiter", or also depends on other maps? If ok what would they be?

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    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di cinqueturbo
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    Citazione Originally Written by cinqueturbo Visualizza Messaggio
    I quoto munro who has the answer on page 4 message #38..

    with a bit of studio, logic and patience the systems, is only to understand what you want to achieve and the clutch when you change it..

    there are a lot of mods useless beyond that start at 400 rpm with increments etc.,
    Citazione Originally Written by maxgen Visualizza Messaggio
    Just to understand how to move... the slippage of The clutch, the wear and tear, is depended only on how you made the map "torque limiter", or also depends on other maps? If ok what would they be?
    You argue in a way all your own..

    if you have a problem on the car why not the systems, instead of sneaking around that you lose time?

    and known to already have issues with the clutch etc, and how to make a map on a engine time..

    the pane to the file..
    studio, logic and patience quid, we can already discard?

    open the file and scroll through the mod, before you find the "required torque blablabla" will have something not right?
    perhaps starting modare already 400RPM increments of 21%?
    Correction Diesel 1C1F86 ditto with increments exaggerated, turbo as from 150p idem on this map
    1CBA82 put ori
    1CBCF8 put ori the BP system and the lim with policy 410RPM?
    1CE5B0 system the lim. with policy to 0RPM then one already from 91,54 of increase?
    "1816,7"can never be correct that request? Midnight
    1D061E-1D112C put ori
    1DC0E0 too soon
    1DF642 put ori the fix possibly after a trip
    1DFB0A idem
    1E0EE6 too soon I would stop to 2500mbar calculates you
    1E1370 idem
    1E3164-1E3304 Booo
    1E682A I don't think I need to tell you now what to do no? I advise you to not go over 1650
    1E6362 copy increments from the one above
    1E682A copy increments from the one above
    1E6BC6-1E6D30 use the head and by 50-100 in most of the pressure previously required
    make a file that let's look at it another is as
    "The only thing that stands between you and your goal are the********* continue to tell you why you can not reach it."

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    Citazione Originally Written by cinqueturbo Visualizza Messaggio
    You argue in a way all your own..

    if you have a problem on the car why not the systems, instead of sneaking around that you lose time?

    and known to already have issues with the clutch etc, and how to make a map on a engine time..

    the pane to the file..
    studio, logic and patience quid, we can already discard?

    open the file and scroll through the mod, before you find the "required torque blablabla" will have something not right?
    perhaps starting modare already 400RPM increments of 21%?
    Correction Diesel 1C1F86 ditto with increments exaggerated, turbo as from 150p idem on this map
    1CBA82 put ori
    1CBCF8 put ori the BP system and the lim with policy 410RPM?
    1CE5B0 system the lim. with policy to 0RPM then one already from 91,54 of increase?
    "1816,7"can never be correct that request? Midnight
    1D061E-1D112C put ori
    1DC0E0 too soon
    1DF642 put ori the fix possibly after a trip
    1DFB0A idem
    1E0EE6 too soon I would stop to 2500mbar calculates you
    1E1370 idem
    1E3164-1E3304 Booo
    1E682A I don't think I need to tell you now what to do no? I advise you to not go over 1650
    1E6362 copy increments from the one above
    1E682A copy increments from the one above
    1E6BC6-1E6D30 use the head and by 50-100 in most of the pressure previously required
    make a file that let's look at it another is as
    Actually, many points I've not understood... I'll be inexperienced but you can be more precise and clear? Of course, many thanks that thou hast lost and spent quality time with my map

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    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di tranky
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    Resigned that any work you see done also by the designer bosch directly, they will always have comments to make..
    both for envy and for different points of view.. everyone in the end change the ecu to the modus operandi of how to derive logically/illogically increases.
    My opinion of course, and here someone will say: BUT THAT s**t you SAY?!?!!?
    This is a map soft.. increased but have not changed many bp of iq that is stopping 75mm3 then from the pedal does not fulfill the total demand of the map conversion nm/iq.
    You have to know that the maps are of two types with facets..
    Informed = to climb on the planks to the request iq and the pressure, and calculated on the new value of the increment
    Deceived = does not scale anything, and the false report of inj on time and advances
    facet = map soft with nothing of that, only more pedal, more air, but nothing calculated to increase but only more ready
    I appreciate the gesture to post the map that you have laudamente paid but, I don't know if you paid much or little, is a map soft with little performance.
    My say that your mod was the fruit of two hands and then it is validated, mistakes starting to edit a mod without knowing what criteria is been made.
    Trust a concept that is said by those who a little more than a year ago did not even know of the change of the tablets in the car. I do not do the mechanical work within the framework.. are computer information security and are passionate about little this way, then trust...
    Throw everything in the toilet and parts from the file ori, do the steps said and begin to understand how and what to do, learn to bring the tables of the maps on the excel file, and correlates the accounts for the increment between the map relating to and you'll see that the view you add to much more easily..
    I have personally banged my head for months before you understand how they work and there are those who can say, even if you still do not believe that I have made maps of all of the above is by changing maps and curves without damos with policy, solely on the basis of its decimal values of the curves according to zones.
    Brings patience and committed and you will see great results
    Live ****** & you Die a HERO !

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    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di tranky
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    Slippage depends, apart from the mechanical wear and tear, from the map the torque (pedal) and not by the limiter, which, if not required, the IQ top of the limiter, does not influence any parameter, but leaves the greater range increase on any other changes you no go retouch.
    Live ****** & you Die a HERO !

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    Citazione Originally Written by tranky Visualizza Messaggio
    Slippage depends, apart from the mechanical wear and tear, from the map the torque (pedal) and not by the limiter, which, if not required, the IQ top of the limiter, does not influence any parameter, but leaves the greater range increase on any other changes you no go retouch.
    Ok thanks for the straight

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    THE ACTIVE USER L'avatar di munro
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    Kills how to write complicated is Worth..
    In other words?

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    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di tranky
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    Citazione Originally Written by munro Visualizza Messaggio
    Kills how to write complicated is Worth..
    In other words?
    Ahahahhaha.. You are right, Cosimo!
    In summary:
    More torque at low = more fuel in = more stress to the flywheel
    Live ****** & you Die a HERO !

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