opinion the map alfa 159 1.9 16v 150 cv

[maxgen]

Hello, I peeked also am your map and I hope not to say the wrong things but to be able to give a hand to the best of my knowledge. It seems to me that you have also increased a limiter iq, but as you worked on the injection time, I think that you could not change the map. The map pressure turbo exaggerated referred msport, it could be a map turbo in special conditions? I think he was referring to the one with increments of approximately 0.3 bar.

about the limiter IQ which address are you referring to?
about the turbo I don't understand what you mean "in the special conditions"...I have brought ori maps suggeritemi good msport and nothing else...
in fact, now it is only increased by the turbo pressure of the whole of 110 points (use ECM titanium)and the limiter pressure turbo and the limiter turbo pressure f to 130 points..and I take the opportunity to ask if you can? leave cos? or take for example the pressure to 120 and limiters 140...okay the logic?
I've read that you can? also lead to 150 points...I don't know!!!!which would you suggest?

then I read that not having the DPF you should also change the threshold lambda top and bottom to have more? readiness...? true?if it's so? how could you make the increments of this map?
grazieeee

[franco75]

you have to go on the maps limiter fumosit? and you should be lowered

[maxgen]

you have to go on the maps limiter fumosit? and you should be lowered

But on ECM titanium are not the ones that I mentioned above? The Cio? limiter lambda upper and lower?
Also you said that I have to be lowered.. But according to what criteria, and how? ? needed this change for the purposes of the readiness and safety of the engine? Thanks

Forgot.. And about the turbo pressure can increase to 120 points and limiters 140?

[GPoint]

about the limiter IQ which address are you referring to?
about the turbo I don't understand what you mean "in the special conditions"...I have brought ori maps suggeritemi good msport and nothing else...
in fact, now it is only increased by the turbo pressure of the whole of 110 points (use ECM titanium)and the limiter pressure turbo and the limiter turbo pressure f to 130 points..and I take the opportunity to ask if you can? leave cos? or take for example the pressure to 120 and limiters 140...okay the logic?
I've read that you can? also lead to 150 points...I don't know!!!!which would you suggest?

then I read that not having the DPF you should also change the threshold lambda top and bottom to have more? readiness...? true?if it's so? how could you make the increments of this map?
grazieeee

Hello, the map turbo to which I was referring ? the one that goes from the address 1E0EE8 to 1E10E6, maybe wrong ? not ? even a map turbo for? in some points ? increased about 350 points, about 0.3 bar, provided that I have not misunderstood the map and in this case I would be curious to know to what it refers. I was saying in the special conditions why? if I've understood me ? a map turbo the peak pi? high ? at about 1.3 bar, and maybe it works only in recovery.

The limiter IQ to which I am referring ? the one that starts at the address 1CF3EC but also here is the speech of the first, I might have misunderstood me.

Also gi? who we are, what is referred to as the map starts to 1DF1BA? It seems to me that indexes are RPMxIQ but I can not understand the values of what they could be referring to.

PS The map that I've taken into consideration ? the named MAP ANT84 LESS TORQUE 4 LAST, that it seemed to me the most recent posted.

Hello

[maxgen]

Hello, the map turbo to which I was referring ? the one that goes from the address 1E0EE8 to 1E10E6, maybe wrong ? not ? even a map turbo for? in some points ? increased about 350 points, about 0.3 bar, provided that I have not misunderstood the map and in this case I would be curious to know to what it refers. I was saying in the special conditions why? if I've understood me ? a map turbo the peak pi? high ? at about 1.3 bar, and maybe it works only in recovery.

The limiter IQ to which I am referring ? the one that starts at the address 1CF3EC but also here is the speech of the first, I might have misunderstood me.

Also gi? who we are, what is referred to as the map starts to 1DF1BA? It seems to me that indexes are RPMxIQ but I can not understand the values of what they could be referring to.

PS The map that I've taken into consideration ? the named MAP ANT84 LESS TORQUE 4 LAST, that it seemed to me the most recent posted.

Hello

We await the responses of the pi? experts in regard to your questions...I the map I modified it on the basis of a map that I had made a trainer!
However, the afternoon, I loaded the map, bringing ori maps suggeritemi by msport and I was raised just short of the torque limiter, but unfortunately it continues from the third onwards to slip slightly between 2200 and 3000 rpm! What to do???

[franco75]

But on ECM titanium are not the ones that I mentioned above? The Cio? limiter lambda upper and lower?
Also you said that I have to be lowered.. But according to what criteria, and how? ? needed this change for the purposes of the readiness and safety of the engine? Thanks

You are the ones lambda upper and lower.
The map ? rpm - q.t? air and limits the stoichiometric ratio, if you slide the clutch not the toccherei but the lose of the original seen that the highs are incrementatee you could limit the diesel

[GPoint]

We await the responses of the pi? experts in regard to your questions...I the map I modified it on the basis of a map that I had made a trainer!
However, the afternoon, I loaded the map, bringing ori maps suggeritemi by msport and I was raised just short of the torque limiter, but unfortunately it continues from the third onwards to slip slightly between 2200 and 3000 rpm! What to do???

For the first map that I have written from 1E0EE8 to 1E10E6 you had already? said msport to bring it back to the ori, I had missed the post, so I have already? the answer :-)

It remains for me and I think also to you, the question for the other 2.

For the slippage of the clutch if ? from change we can do little, but in the original you sled? you may decrease a hair injection times by reducing a p? the power delivered by the machine, and perhaps reduce, the hair on the request to the pedal in that range of rpm. The right to try.

[maxgen]

For the first map that I have written from 1E0EE8 to 1E10E6 you had already? said msport to bring it back to the ori, I had missed the post, so I have already? the answer :-)

It remains for me and I think also to you, the question for the other 2.

For the slippage of the clutch if ? from change we can do little, but in the original you sled? you may decrease a hair injection times by reducing a p? the power delivered by the machine, and perhaps reduce, the hair on the request to the pedal in that range of rpm. The right to try.

How much should I lower the injection times and the map the pedal to which the nomenclature or address refers to ECM titanium?
PS. With the map ant84 less torque in use, 4 most recent posted above I lowered only the torque limiter, and that it would not slip while now I've raised but little

I've attached the map that I uploaded yesterday with the light increases the torque limiter...I know they are not made well why? the increases are not linear, but in the range between 2000 and 3000 if I raise still slide even more?..what do I do?
down in that range?or are there any other trick to not slip the clutch
among other things, yesterday when I tried, I noticed that slittava not in an excessive way and had given me the impression that at 3000 rpm, you would block this? as if you could go beyond this number of turns, in fact, when I stopped and before I put the second I felt a slight sprinkling of the exchange..probably it was too hot in the clutch??

[GPoint]

How much should I lower the injection times and the map the pedal to which the nomenclature or address refers to ECM titanium?
PS. With the map ant84 less torque in use, 4 most recent posted above I lowered only the torque limiter, and that it would not slip while now I've raised but little

I've attached the map that I uploaded yesterday with the light increases the torque limiter...I know they are not made well why? the increases are not linear, but in the range between 2000 and 3000 if I raise still slide even more?..what do I do?
down in that range?or are there any other trick to not slip the clutch
among other things, yesterday when I tried, I noticed that slittava not in an excessive way and had given me the impression that at 3000 rpm, you would block this? as if you could go beyond this number of turns, in fact, when I stopped and before I put the second I felt a slight sprinkling of the exchange..probably it was too hot in the clutch??

Hello, I gave a look at the last map, and to avoid confusion I would like to start from this. I try to give my opinion, and I hope that more and more? experts I critichino to try to understand if I'm helping or hurting:

In order to make changes by browsing the map in 2D

Maps related to the pedal according to me are good, are not at all excessive.
After the previous, there are a number of changes which should be the DPF, but I don't know if they have errors because of too much inexperience on my part
After the control DPF from the address 1CBA82 dino to 1CBC80 c'? a map that you have changed that I can't interpret, personally I'd leave the original
After you have changed the breakpoint of the torque limiter, I am referring to the map on the ramp of the torque limiter. The lose the original.
After c'? the torque limiter, to try to not slip the clutch and try to put it back original to 1250, and from 1500 with an increase in pi? sweet. Consider that if you request almost 5 kgm of torque in the pi? 1500 is probably the slippage starts already? from that point, then ? useless in the successive values require less. We're still talking about a digital management applied to mechanical parts. Personally I would try to do a gradual increase from 5% to 10% from 1500 to 2500rpm and then gradually increase.
After the previous, there are a couple of checks of the dpf, and then c'? the map conversion nm --> iq (quantity? fuel injected). This map get the original given that you're working on the timing of the injection, and then saw that you have embarked on the road to fool the ecu by changing the time not to put too many irons in the fire, as you have the means to proceed to step so you are aware of the various changes.
After we have a map that starts at the address 1CF3EC, this is for me ? a limiter with an IQ that get the original for the same reason that I have written in the previous line. You have already? modified times, I think for a start it is better to start with a parameter, and not with three. I don't know if I can explain it but if you increase the diesel fuel for the times+limiter iq+quantity? fuel injected, you will also have many more? parameters to be checked in case of flaws like the clutch slipping.
After we have the map injection time (tinj) that would leave you cos? how you made it.
Immediately after you mod the map turbo and the limiter, which, according to me you can leave cos' as you made them. Between these two maps, the address 1E1592 c'? a change that I can not understand, can you tell me what it is?
After the turbo there are other controls DPF and maps rai that I would you do so? how you made them.

I hope this information was of help, but I hope above all to be correct if I said the wrong things. My advice ? start a little at a time and slowly refine the map without putting too much meat on the fire. From the little that I was able to learn enough to leave with 3\4 maps to feel a difference, then work sl rest.

[maxgen]

First of all, thank you very much! In any case, I made these changes taking into account the suggestions of the great msport and based on a map made by a preparer.I hope not to have them misinterpreted and see if he,an expert in the matter, I say? its about your observations, and then what do I have to or I don't have to change...
PS.msport I brought gold the an overboost and the other the map of the turbo that you told me...the car ? a little less gritty...what do I do in order not to affect the clutch, but to give him more? brio?