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    Citazione Originally Written by munro Visualizza Messaggio
    hehe..wibble ? a p? "cryptic" in his post..***** s, of the l? all....fig your avatar bart!.... we would like to see a good signing in the sentence:"ciucciati the sock"!! ahahahah....
    munro use a language boundary? I do not understand? in the post of the advance I wrote the formula with the unit? of measure but I do not understand... I have explained in detail

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    also in the diesel if you increase too l afr lose performance..a little.. and the temperature rises..
    In a world of crazy normal is crazy

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    Citazione Originally Written by cicciogsr Visualizza Messaggio
    14.3 the calculation from the map ori, I haven't seen it but I remember that it should be about 70 if ? a jtd105 even why? ? my car...
    My ? a jtd110, but I think that little change...
    But are you sure of that 14,3? To me, values are significantly lower...


    Citazione Originally Written by cicciogsr Visualizza Messaggio
    ...now without the smoke, you can lower the good or evil up to 13.5 a max of 13, but gi? smoke at high rpm...
    I seem to be the values a bit high, but are you sure?


    Citazione Originally Written by cicciogsr Visualizza Messaggio
    ...the state of wear of the turbine affects the flow of air so if the meter measures less air for any reason you do not find yourself in the diesel fuel, that you wanted to have...
    On this we agree!


    Citazione Originally Written by cicciogsr Visualizza Messaggio
    ...second if you have the air flow right and you are too low afr when c'? the decline in physiological pressure turbo fumerai.. I explained it?
    And why? you should smoke?! If all the air passes from the air mass meter, when the pressure drops, so consequently, cala, of course, the air intake (and then also the diesel, as soon as also written by you) and therefore you are? it is, however, respected the stoichiometric ratio!

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    Citazione Originally Written by Chris156 Visualizza Messaggio
    also in the diesel if you increase too l afr lose performance..a little.. and the temperature rises..
    tell those that prepare the tractor or truck pulling....according to me those engines from 1800-2000cv traveling with afr of 8:1 if not less....
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    Citazione Originally Written by Chris156 Visualizza Messaggio
    also in the diesel if you increase too l afr lose performance..a little.. and the temperature rises..
    Then, according to you, what value of AFR must be considered as an ideal? Or as a limit not to go beyond?

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    *bart with 1200 mg of air and 70mg of diesel you're on a nice 17,1:1 afr...which I think is what was established by the mother, fiat...
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    Citazione Originally Written by munro Visualizza Messaggio
    *bart with 1200 mg of air and 70mg of diesel you're on a nice 17,1:1 afr...which I think is what was established by the mother, fiat...
    In fact, I also obtained the average values of lambda of this order, and beyond, for this I asked cicciogsr as he got 14,3 with the map of the series...

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    wait..wait bart..we are doing confusion because ciccio said that the diesel fuel are 70mm3 not mg that we should convert to in mg? sincerely now, I can't remember the face if them to multiply by 0.85, we have 70*0,85=59,5 mg but if we divide to 0.85 we have 70/0,85=82,3 mg..now for the first value, we have an afr of 20.1:1, while for the second we have an afr of 14.5:1...so I think you have to divide mm3 by 0.85 to get the right proportion....
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    Citazione Originally Written by bart Visualizza Messaggio
    Then, according to you, what value of AFR must be considered as an ideal? Or as a limit not to go beyond?
    remain as much as possible close to the original..
    In a world of crazy normal is crazy

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    1200 mg of air for me not to have them measure at least 105 arrives at the max to 1000 ... anyway you are right I remembered wrong l afr ori ? 16 ... in all these post we are talking about smoke and diesel... to me the car who smoke like trains does not make me a genius in the diesel for the old ones maybe we can stay but for new ones I don't think... a bit of diesel in the most also not self-seal helps to reduce or speed up certain phases

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