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    Citazione Originally Written by mcjtd Visualizza Messaggio
    Hello,alfetta, what do I thank?? I have written what I think I know then not ? said that it is so?.
    with regard to the ecm if you use the titanium according to me you first throw it in the toilet because, according to me, in comparison with the 2001 I believe that the latter is better also because I believe that if you get the injection parzalizzato(name of the pipe,I hate ecm for these names to *******m!) at least you can see the columns in the tabular values of the limiter flue gas air intake from the mass air flow sensor in mg and turns and of course the resulting diesel fuel injected only that if you take, for example, a value on the axis of the air to 750mg and the divide by a value of diesel fuel in the map,that now I can't remember if they are in mm3 (or mg,and them divide among them, you will get a rapport stechio or, better said AFR so you will understand that the ecu with the air and the diesel is working in the respect of the AFR of the problem stems from the fact that if you where there should be a quantity? air read a number of fantasy that can? be 80-90-100-a million how do you calculate this blessed afr for not smoking? according to me ? impossible. but pu? maybe I'm saying again, a tide of s**te.
    hello, I think that it is right to thank you because you helped, also, maybe a little help but it is important to...
    returning to the speech I, or both the titan that in 2001, however, on the edc15p it seems to me the same instead of the titan on edc16, for me, very well done.....

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    Citazione Originally Written by dvdtuning Visualizza Messaggio
    In the diesel in the tanks? of intake air to each of the suction phase remains almost? constant to vary the rpm and engine load,
    for this reason, it is measured only the quantity? and the quality? fuel suitable for the load and the regime, without adjustment of the intake air, but bens? dell compressed air from the turbo for a performance major.
    In a diesel there is no stechio ideal for high performance engine to which it varies? always.
    I will recommend an increase from 50 load by 8% and increase until the end of the map to a max of 15%, having already? changed the other maps...cash advances, you can let the original for the moment.
    Then try and tell us how well does the car.
    so if I understand correctly, the injection split that would be a limiter of the flue gas,in the axis, I find the numbers of turns of the load and the resulting diesel fuel injected??but diesel fuel is injected on the basis of the intake air or the compressed air??

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    Citazione Originally Written by mcjtd Visualizza Messaggio
    dvd but secnodo you the maf, what's the use?
    The maf I repeat that measure almost? the same air inlet to vary the rpm and load...don't you force aspire to more? air, but you have to give the turbo, speaking in a way of cash.

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    dvd studying this topic, you are out of the way....plug any scanner to the ecu and displays the parameters of the intake air from the maf you will see that approximately, depending on the engine the maf do you give? at a minimum, around 300mg of air to the maximum you will have approximately 1000-1200g of intake air that does not ? almost the same as the air intake, but c'? a big difference, and this means the ec and the ecu based many of his strategies to work on the maf, as otherwise it would be as you say, this sensor would be one thing totally useless....
    you perhaps are you confused by the fact that the diesel aspires always to the maximum air available but forget his more big variable this? the revs of the engine...at idle,say 1000 rpm,aspirera less air at 4000 rpm....
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    Citazione Originally Written by munro Visualizza Messaggio
    dvd studying this topic, you are out of the way....plug any scanner to the ecu and displays the parameters of the intake air from the maf you will see that approximately, depending on the engine the maf do you give? at a minimum, around 300mg of air to the maximum you will have approximately 1000-1200g of intake air that does not ? almost the same as the air intake, but c'? a big difference, and this means the ec and the ecu based many of his strategies to work on the maf, as otherwise it would be as you say, this sensor would be one thing totally useless....
    you perhaps are you confused by the fact that the diesel aspires always to the maximum air available but forget his more big variable this? the revs of the engine...at idle,say 1000 rpm,aspirera less air at 4000 rpm....
    I'm sorry, munro I expressed myself badly...I meant what you said but if we take 2000 rpm in third gear the maf measurement example, 1000 input...if we ask for more? diesel always at 2000rpm the maf misurer? always the same thing, or am I wrong?

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    Citazione Originally Written by dvdtuning Visualizza Messaggio
    In the diesel in the tanks? of intake air to each of the suction phase remains almost? constant to vary the rpm and engine load,
    for this reason, it is measured only the quantity? and the quality? fuel suitable for the load and the regime, without adjustment of the intake air, but bens? dell compressed air from the turbo for a performance major.
    I have given what you have written for you to give an account of how you have changed your mind....
    say what you said in the last post and already a big step forward compared to the inaccuracies above.....
    your reasoning then the quantity of air to paritadi rounds ? obvious, but the relationship stechio also exists in the diesel..if you at 2000 rpm you have 1000g of air and 50g of diesel oil you have an air-fuel ratio of 20 to 1...
    if you have the same rpm and with the same air of 1000g from 60g to fuel your AFR sar? 16.6 to 1 and probably fumerai...
    Last edited by munro; 03-12-2012 at 21:29
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    Citazione Originally Written by munro Visualizza Messaggio
    I have given what you have written for you to give an account of how you have changed your mind....
    say what you said in the last post and already a big step forward compared to the inaccuracies above.....
    your reasoning then the quantity of air to paritadi rounds ? obvious, but the relationship stechio also exists in the diesel..if you at 2000 rpm you have 1000g of air and 50g of diesel oil you have an air-fuel ratio of 20 to 1...
    if you have the same rpm and with the same air of 1000g from 60g to fuel your AFR sar? 16.6 to 1 and probably fumerai...
    hello munro!!
    your speech is healthy and precisely, and then the limiter smoke the reasoning of??i.e. if the increase of 10g diesel fuel to 2000giri the quantita'of the air intake remains the same, the AFR will be of 16.6 to 1 then fumera,' to bring the AFR to 20 to 1, how do you do?? i.e. only from the map, the only solution will be to increase the turbo pressure at that rpm.....or calculate the number of turns and the amount of intake air for each cycle the proper increase of fuel to be injected, which should be the purpose of the limiter smoke right??

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    great alfetta!!you have centered in the middle of the reasoning if lim fumes ori have e.g. a ratio afr 17:1 between the air and fuel you can modify it in two ways I have the abbasi down with the AFR, or you can change the values in the axes to comply with what is set in the ecu...
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    Citazione Originally Written by munro Visualizza Messaggio
    I have given what you have written for you to give an account of how you have changed your mind....
    say what you said in the last post and already a big step forward compared to the inaccuracies above.....
    your reasoning then the quantity of air to paritadi rounds ? obvious, but the relationship stechio also exists in the diesel..if you at 2000 rpm you have 1000g of air and 50g of diesel oil you have an air-fuel ratio of 20 to 1...
    if you have the same rpm and with the same air of 1000g from 60g to fuel your AFR sar? 16.6 to 1 and probably fumerai...
    In fact, I wrote that you can only deal with the compressed air otherwise fumerai always if you can turn up the diesel fuel, according to your theory...I sbaliato in saying that remains constant if we increase only the diesel.
    Pero original is at 1000 to 3000 rpm, the ratio stechio varies, but the ecu adapts and doesn't make you smoke it...
    I speak, however, of substantial increases and not 1000 rpm!
    Munro I want to tell you that I am almost? a beginner then this discussion ? of safe learning for me...
    Last edited by dvdtuning; 04-12-2012 at 00:13

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    I s? you do not want to understand dvd....the map of the flue gas is based on the intake air to the engine, and weighted by the mass air flow sensor or MAF...
    others, however, have the maps, the flue gas based on the turbo pressure sensor or MAP.....the edc15p in question has both types of limiters fumes..one based on the MAF, and the other based on the MAP if you increase the values linearly to the percentage on both the car with a lot of propabilit? will start to smoke like a ferry..***** and I have said somewhere else in these maps you change the calculator to the hand....
    however, take a look at this post where it explains very well the concept of the lim fumes and also as moddarlo..
    http://www.professionalchiptuning.ne...cipianti/page4
    Last edited by munro; 04-12-2012 at 14:48
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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