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    Will update:

    these cars do not need re-code injectors in case of a replacement, or better not to ? expected, and anyway, my diagnosis does not. Even if you find this cause as I set my hand many times to the injectors of the mercedes cdi, and in any case, I had to do that operation. What I always do on the fiat MJ for example, where ? expected, even if non-essential according to me.

    Returning to the problem I can only say that, in my opinion, there is no solution, or, better, I maybe I have not been able to find it. As mentioned in another post I changed everything with test material that I keep in the workshop and the problem in any case ? varied, both in better and in worse. Just for the record rielenco all:

    pump rail
    injectors
    pressure regulator
    camshaft sensor
    crankshaft sensor
    fuel filter
    flute rail
    O-Ring fuel lines
    Starter

    With the latter I have had some improvements since increasing the speed? start-up engine automatically manages the first to put pressure on the fuel in the rail, which remains low at the start, most hot. Speaking with the customer told me that this car has always had a bit of that defect, even from new, and in my opinion, is accentuated lately, with the relative failure of the starter motor that had lost a few laps by the standard.

    The explanation could be a defect in design or perhaps programming of the control unit caused by a modification that introduced the mercedes on those engines right from the year of construction of this car. Up to 2002 on the motors, the Cdi was mounted on the valve Elab, which is in close proximity? the pump rail, then deleted... and probably the car once turned off download circuit rail, something that has not happened since to close the circuit thought, the above valve.

    If someone wants to give him a look I can post the mapping that I downloaded from the ecu and to see if maybe there is some solution to ****llo reprogramming ...

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    And yet, you have to solve...where are you staying blackwolf76 ??

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    Citazione Originally Written by tezzero Visualizza Messaggio
    And yet, you have to solve...where are you staying blackwolf76 ??
    prov. salerno

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    We are too far away...otherwise I would have liked to give us a look!!

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    sorry if you think that the problem st? in the plant that you download the xch? don't try with a mechanical valve non-return putting it in close proximity? the entry of the diesel filter?

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    Citazione Originally Written by giarras Visualizza Messaggio
    sorry if you think that the problem st? in the plant that you download the xch? don't try with a mechanical valve non-return putting it in close proximity? the entry of the diesel filter?
    in fact, I have already? the mass... even directly on the tank that gave me trouble on another car...

    for? given that the problem is pi? hot or cold I would say that the thing ? to exclude...

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    blackwolf from what I read the only thing you haven't replaced ? the electric pump low pressure, I would not that depended on you as I have also written "of the" about the motors psa...
    I would like to note that on some cars if you are not in the encoding injectors ima you may have problems of that kind why? as the car or the ecu is not able to calibrate precisely in the diesel fuel to be injected to the phase delicate departure...especially to hot saw new types of diesel due to the absence of sulfur tend to behave a p? cme the benza....they have lost a lot of money in accendiabilit? and lubricity...
    Last edited by munro; 07-10-2012 at 21:50

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    if you can? help, I say to you that the problem lies in the recovery of the injectors, and known, and not only in a mercedes, the injectors are hot with the dilatamento of the materials and the wear and tear of some components dedicated to the recovery of waste pressure to the system, ? normal with a new motor it starts better because? as you said reaches the first operating pressure, but not ? the solution, trust is a good pompista maybe center the bosch and do review the injectors and you will see that solve. (PS: the 15 years of MB)

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    if I remember correctly , this car as a pump low pressure mounts a mechanical gear , have you tried to replace that too?

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    Citazione Originally Written by mecdoc Visualizza Messaggio
    if I remember correctly , this car as a pump low pressure mounts a mechanical gear , have you tried to replace that too?
    but are you sure guys?look at that in the clk 270cdi to which accenavo before mechanical pumps low pressure diesel, I do not see....
    however, I also want to note this: and even if you can't? do post external links,and frankly I do not understand the reason,I want you to see what it says about Bosch....
    Last edited by munro; 07-10-2012 at 23:24

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