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    Citazione Originally Written by jacktheripper2 Visualizza Messaggio
    Try to make a log ori, with the advances and you'll see the degrees of the real you. However, your reasoning must be good and quiet, not breaking the engine, especially with the iq, the maps after the pedal, the power torque curves, it seems to me.. you can also put them to 0.. not active.
    Those curves and them after the maps pedal (a map without a BP, and that the damos croma does not report the description right? I have seen moddate into the files of the illustrious preparers (including one paid for mine when I still did not know what it was a map), I confirm that you do not need to anything?

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    Citazione Originally Written by Errecinque Visualizza Messaggio
    Those curves and them after the maps pedal (a map without a BP, and that the damos croma does not report the description right? I have seen moddate into the files of the illustrious preparers (including one paid for mine when I still did not know what it was a map), I confirm that you do not need to anything?
    I'm sorry if I answered more.. no many preparatory to the touch but no use that map immediately after the pedal

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    exactly the same problem on a giulietta 2.0 170cv edc16c39
    classic limiters iq unlocked (speed , water temperature , engine speed , conditions , etc.)
    lim torque rise , pedal ditto , but in 5a and 6a limit always seems to return the original
    while up to 3 you hear a huge difference compared to the original...
    I have made several log and here is what comes out

    the map nm/mm3 is already informed that stock at 4000 rpm and 400nm should give 80mm3, and also that at 4500 rpm, with 400nm must give even 95mm3


    now I have these requests in the pedal - values of the limiter - conversion nm/mm3 (iq/nm request) - the values read from the log - gear 3a - 4a - 5a

    3000rpm = 425nm - 410nm ---> 85mm3 - (3a)85mm3 - (4a)85mm3 - (5a) no
    3500rpm = 415nm - 410nm ---> 85mm3 - (3a)85mm3 - (4a)85mm3 - (5a)83mm3
    4000rpm = 400nm - 412nm ---> the 83-85mm3 - (3a)85mm3 - (4a)77mm3 - (5a)74mm3
    4500rpm = 430nm - 430nm ---> 95mm3 - (3a)66mm3 - (4a)65mm3 - (5a)63mm3

    I hope the schema is clear , then the engine rpm , the value of the pedal , the value of the limiter torque conversion nm/iq - values read from the log in the various gears (3a-4a-5a)
    as you can see, it limits frightfully from the 5th onwards , in fact from the impression of being firm
    it is almost 1 year that I throw in now , but does not come ac****I put also the file ori and mod with which I read those values
    I hope to get ac**** I did a lavorone me in 2d all the maps are in , the various limiters iq according to the conditions etc etc
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    Citazione Originally Written by bmw320cd Visualizza Messaggio
    exactly the same problem on a giulietta 2.0 170cv edc16c39
    classic limiters iq unlocked (speed , water temperature , engine speed , conditions , etc.)
    lim torque rise , pedal ditto , but in 5a and 6a limit always seems to return the original
    while up to 3 you hear a huge difference compared to the original...
    I have made several log and here is what comes out

    the map nm/mm3 is already informed that stock at 4000 rpm and 400nm should give 80mm3, and also that at 4500 rpm, with 400nm must give even 95mm3


    now I have these requests in the pedal - values of the limiter - conversion nm/mm3 (iq/nm request) - the values read from the log - gear 3a - 4a - 5a

    3000rpm = 425nm - 410nm ---> 85mm3 - (3a)85mm3 - (4a)85mm3 - (5a) no
    3500rpm = 415nm - 410nm ---> 85mm3 - (3a)85mm3 - (4a)85mm3 - (5a)83mm3
    4000rpm = 400nm - 412nm ---> the 83-85mm3 - (3a)85mm3 - (4a)77mm3 - (5a)74mm3
    4500rpm = 430nm - 430nm ---> 95mm3 - (3a)66mm3 - (4a)65mm3 - (5a)63mm3

    I hope the schema is clear , then the engine rpm , the value of the pedal , the value of the limiter torque conversion nm/iq - values read from the log in the various gears (3a-4a-5a)
    as you can see, it limits frightfully from the 5th onwards , in fact from the impression of being firm
    it is almost 1 year that I throw in now , but does not come ac****I put also the file ori and mod with which I read those values
    I hope to get ac**** I did a lavorone me in 2d all the maps are in , the various limiters iq according to the conditions etc etc
    I also resolved shortly, despite all the limiters you mentioned, the various requests to the pedal, lim, torque and lambda, in the higher gears continues to limit.

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    I have downloaded again the file but what kind of mod are you doing? Deceived or Informed?

    for the informed, there is a discussion that maybe you can give a hand http://www.professionalchiptuning.ne...jt-vt9799.html
    "The only thing that stands between you and your goal are the********* continue to tell you why you can not reach it."

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    Citazione Originally Written by cinqueturbo Visualizza Messaggio
    I have downloaded again the file but what kind of mod are you doing? Deceived or Informed?

    for the informed, there is a discussion that maybe you can give a hand http://www.professionalchiptuning.ne...jt-vt9799.html
    informed informed... in times inj are already rescaled up to 100mm3 , then we don't need to trick anything to make it go...
    and then I would only need to keep 80-85mm3 in 5th and 6th gear and I would be already satisfied to the highest...
    in fact, in the 1a-2a-3a-4a, the difference you notice with respect to the file .ori , but in 5a and 6a back to the original , to witness the iq that falls dramatically...

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    Citazione Originally Written by bmw320cd Visualizza Messaggio
    informed informed... in times inj are already rescaled up to 100mm3 , then we don't need to trick anything to make it go...
    and then I would only need to keep 80-85mm3 in 5th and 6th gear and I would be already satisfied to the highest...
    in fact, in the 1a-2a-3a-4a, the difference you notice with respect to the file .ori , but in 5a and 6a back to the original , to witness the iq that falls dramatically...
    when a man with the ECU informed meets a man with the ECU Deceived, the one with the ECU informed is a beaten man.. Sergio Leone
    "The only thing that stands between you and your goal are the********* continue to tell you why you can not reach it."

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    Citazione Originally Written by cinqueturbo Visualizza Messaggio
    when a man with the ECU informed meets a man with the ECU Deceived, the one with the ECU informed is a beaten man.. Sergio Leone
    Ahahahha.
    Do you know how to distinguish the two in the crowd?
    The one with the ECU informed has the bumper clean.
    Live ****** & you Die a HERO !

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    I've given it a deep read in that thread indicated by r5... but nothing "new" found...
    the limiters iq that has touched him , are the same that I touched I ... at least so I think , surely there will be something that I do not find or do not attenziono , but I can not find it...

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    Unlocked all the bits about the IQ.. Done several times as you say without result.. as soon as I sbroccato and I did the test from the crazy, the car was flying... There are limiters scattered also (I think) on the maps to zero with only the BP. Changing everything is unlocked and no damage.
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