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    Dear members,
    for You professionals, and maybe you are also the operators of the sector, the forum, without a doubt ? bread for the Vs. teeth and nothing ? to discuss, but as me and I think for other simple novizzi not ? you have so much to disclose and / or to put the ns. wealth of experience at your disposal, not for nothing that we are novizzi!

    I have, for example, a simple private employee who, while being passionate about electronics, mechanics, etc etc., I certainly don't have a officinavisto that are from morning to evening with cards and paperwork, but I wanted to begin to understand at least the signals of my engine and the error codes without having to resort to officnes or to the mother house (between brackets also do not understand a nice tube) and know only estirparti the euros out of your pocket, so I pray to the Administrator not to be eccessivante hard with the rules otherwise the forum, in my opinion, will become a priv? for you only a few experts/elected, and then andado outside the rules of maximum if any of the forum should be open to all for a fair exchange of interest on sarongs and assessment, and dissemination of knowledge "the real progress is when the technology is made available to all" if, then, the forum, and only pointed to, voluntarily and/or involontarimente from parts of some members, only to the economic interests me sar? the first to come out even why? are not to YOUR height, certainly not ? every day, disassemble and reassemble units.

    I just hope that all messages of this trade (among other things, almost all bare of content-and therefore the right to write-in) do not go to incremetare the scores of those who have written (including me)otherwise there would be a violation of the rules

    Good continuous
    Fulvio
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    Administrator L'avatar di msport (exil77grande)
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    hello fulvio, I do not see absolutely where you are enclosed only for professionals when the majority of the topics come right from beginners like yourself, or enthusiasts without the workshop and ask for help or explanations that we readily try to help out if you can,if you search the forum there are topics for high ****llo cultural talking about ecus in a few forums you can find, and it's obvious that we can't put the discussions in the clear even for those who are not even registered,we only ask that you are completely the users are continuous and not step because the goal is to create a community of true with all the real numbers, and not only hundreds of members and a few active I don't know if I explain myself,if you're referring to the rule of 50 useful messages tell you beforehand that those who attend the forum and participate in a proper discussions while not being a professional will reach them without big problems because they all have something to learn from everyone and even those who doesn't understand you can teach something to others,then if you're referring to the section off-limits, you advance in the first place in the forum it is all free,whole, and not as they do elsewhere and are looking to sell pm what we offer except the services that are required and not proposed to be part of the staff of the professionalchiptuning and I repeat is required and is not proposed because still help you all if you want to done a job and it's obvious that you pay if, instead you complain just for the fact of the rule of the attainment of the 50 useful messages I'm sorry in advance if I write in a way that is somewhat rude, but in my forum I do not allow anyone to enter without knocking,make their comfortable and then disappear without even introduce herself or thank to those who are well adapts otherwise I can not help you too much,don't even imagine how many people he has to do for the day and even sign up and I contacted me and asked me the material that you find in the forum then, according to you, I opened a forum by providing the material only for those who search the web for something and find it here?
    you are written by 2 days does not know if you read a bit around and saw the ****llo of this forum in the help and explain the various questions of others, not to mention the bank's data files to ori on lin that we still need to enlarge the parechio made available to obviously I repeat free (sorry if it is little).
    I do understand why, according to you, the forum is oriented more on the purpose of profit?
    maybe according to you, who is a professional in the field, and he does for a living besides spending time here that is dedicated for the most part, sharing their knowledge with those in need or those who don't know a bat and asks for information should also do a free course, so all those kids armed wing nut 30€, belonging to scrub already a good part of customers on the market, they also do well with us?
    I'm sorry but you'd have a moment to review what you have written and think well before you write in the future,good continuation.
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    I'm thinking about it ... I feel like respectable standard of 50 posts before being able to access all the content from the forum. They are professional in the automotive industry. I have experience in many areas. But I do not have all the information. And I learned a lot on the internet and much more I have to learn. If a forum hinders so that you can learn from him, I don't feel motivated to share my knowledge.

    The rules must be respected, but I know that c'? that contatiempo that ? counterproductive to the enrichment of the forum

    greetings

    p.d.: translator ******
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    Administrator L'avatar di msport (exil77grande)
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    Citazione Originally Written by afortunao Visualizza Messaggio
    I'm thinking about it ... I feel like respectable standard of 50 posts before being able to access all the content from the forum. They are professional in the automotive industry. I have experience in many areas. But I do not have all the information. And I learned a lot on the internet and much more I have to learn. If a forum hinders so that you can learn from him, I don't feel motivated to share my knowledge.

    The rules must be respected, but I know that c'? that contatiempo that ? counterproductive to the enrichment of the forum

    greetings

    p.d.: translator ******

    I'm sorry, what do you need to share your knowledge with the forum?
    maybe you need to download the file ori of the database?
    maybe you need to download the sw made available in the forum?
    maybe you need to see the guides with screen?
    if you don't need this, just participate in the discussions of the forum and in a short time you reach the useful messages don't you think?
    on the contrary, many of participate complain only to not be able to view or download, but maybe it's just this that is interested in these people?
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    BEGINNER L'avatar di afortunao
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    perhaps the translation ? good, ? for this that you have not understood what I think.

    This forum avr? many interesting things to learn, and I think it will be? the state at the expense of the people who shared in his day. Do you think that ? all done? You think you don't need pi? help? Keep the sw? with all ckack? ..., do you think I need some software and can not? get from anywhere on the web? ... maybe I have enough software that helps people who visit this forum., maybe I just someone in need of help.

    I say each of us has our knowledge, and do not feel motivated to share in a forum that makes me write the rule 50 messages
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    Administrator L'avatar di msport (exil77grande)
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    Citazione Originally Written by afortunao Visualizza Messaggio
    perhaps the translation ? good, ? for this that you have not understood what I think.

    This forum avr? many interesting things to learn, and I think it will be? the state at the expense of the people who shared in his day. Do you think that ? all done? You think you don't need pi? help? Keep the sw? with all ckack? ..., do you think I need some software and can not? get from anywhere on the web? ... maybe I have enough software that helps people who visit this forum., maybe I just someone in need of help.

    I say each of us has our knowledge, and do not feel motivated to share in a forum that makes me write the rule 50 messages

    I understand very well what you wrote even if you have used the translator and I repeat,if you don't need to download the sw,files,guides,screen and so much more as you wrote you definitely part of you already have or you can find it on the web and you are a professional that can share with us his experience in the various post because you are so long to our rules and do not participate in the discussions of the forum and in 3-4 days since as you say you are a professional, you have far exceeded the 50 messages useful?
    other to get to 50 messages post files ori in the database of files golds that are not present also this is a good thing you don't want to participate,you do not want the rule of 50 messages but bitching you're good,this is the regulation, if you like, and so would otherwise not participate,closed off the topic.

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    In two words, I will say that the rule of 50 mess and was made because in many enroll do not participate in the life of the forum with the download of the software
    made available for free and then not seen most of this from my own part of the means to come to your house cacar.. and leave a behavior that is not here goes then, if you are really interested in the 50 mess participating in a constructive way them go a few days without doing a lot of stories.
    Unshared knowledge remains an end in itself.
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  8. #8
    BEGINNER L'avatar di afortunao
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    I fully understand the reason for imposing this rule, the respect, I was just trying to make you see the reverse of the medal. From a different perspective
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    Administrator L'avatar di msport (exil77grande)
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    Citazione Originally Written by afortunao Visualizza Messaggio
    I fully understand the reason for imposing this rule, the respect, I was just trying to make you see the reverse of the medal. From a different perspective
    thank you, I understand that you would like to help more people who need but I repeat that if you are more familiar with the forum in brevisimo time six of us, even you and I would appreciate your presence since you say you are a professional.
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    I agree msport with this new rule.
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