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    Citazione Originally Written by Fede78 Visualizza Messaggio
    Well I think you can also monitor with ***********.. Tomorrow I try
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    The fact today is the log of the opening of the pressure regulator of the rail.
    At this point, that the problem is not a limiter of the regulator?

    I found a project winols a MJD8 where there are many maps from the damos... not all... and I'm trying to compare, since many maps are similar... kind of like the bit of the limiter of the rail starting from the damos and by searching on the file of the MJD6 it seems to me to be almost the same...

    Regulator pressione.jpg

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    to overcome the problem of pressure "swinging" I think you need to intervene on the map pre-control drv....
    I think that is sort of like a pid control for the rail pressure...
    for? don't ask me where it is located above the map why? not n? I have no idea....
    I read only...
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    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    Citazione Originally Written by Fede78 Visualizza Messaggio
    The fact today is the log of the opening of the pressure regulator of the rail.
    At this point, that the problem is not a limiter of the regulator?

    I found a project winols a MJD8 where there are many maps from the damos... not all... and I'm trying to compare, since many maps are similar... kind of like the bit of the limiter of the rail starting from the damos and by searching on the file of the MJD6 it seems to me to be almost the same...

    Regulator pressione.jpg
    In mjet8 75-90-95cv file 2mb, the bit limitation of the rail is not ? the same as the mjet6 70cv file 448kb, in mjet8 bit of limitation is to be found almost at the beginning of the file, wrapped in the bit 2 have the same value 0384 esa, 1700bar normal..in the 70 the address change.
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    Some advice in order to stabilize the pressure of the rail?

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    maps limiter rail 70cv

    067494 - 06757E Rail Press. Gov. - Rail pressure max gradient: f(rpmTB, Pboost)
    conversion value 50,000000 x (eprom) - 100(offset) mappa8x12
    axis (X) RMP(Y) axis Pressure turbocharger relative mBar

    0675be (injection parzializata) Rail Press. Gov. - Req. rail press. at st.-st.: f(rpmTB,Qref)
    conversion value 8,000000 x (eprom) - 100(offset) mappa16x16

    0677be - 06785e Rail Press. Gov. - Req. rail pressure at cranking: f(rpmTB,pTcool)
    conversion value 8,000000 x (eprom) - 100(offset) map 8x8
    axis (x) RMP (y) axis temperature (c?

    06785e - 067946 Rail Press. Gov. - PrailRef warm-up weight map: f(rpmTB, Qref)
    conversion value 1,600000 x (eprom), map 12x8
    axis (x) RMP (y) axis mm3/str

    067946 - 0679e4 Rail Press. Gov. - PrailRef warm-up factor of the map: f(pTcool, Patm)
    conversion value 5,00000 x (eprom), map 8x8
    axis(x) temperature c? axis (y) Patm mbar


    0679e4 - 067a9a Rail Press. Gov. - Tfuel dep. rail press. lim.map:f(rpmTB,Tfuel)
    conversion value 8,00000 x (eprom) -100(offset) map 8x8
    axis(x) RMP (y) axis temperature (c?

    the maps above taken from the file lancia Y annex at the beginning of the forum, in addition, look for the bit 01d4 0307
    change the bit 0307 in the same way as the bit restriction rail pressure
    Last edited by leandro89; 20-12-2013 at 17:20
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    Citazione Originally Written by Backgroop Visualizza Messaggio
    maps limiter rail 70cv

    067494 - 06757E Rail Press. Gov. - Rail pressure max gradient: f(rpmTB, Pboost)
    conversion value 50,000000 x (eprom) - 100(offset) mappa8x12
    axis (X) RMP(Y) axis Pressure turbocharger relative mBar

    0675be (injection parzializata) Rail Press. Gov. - Req. rail press. at st.-st.: f(rpmTB,Qref)
    conversion value 8,000000 x (eprom) - 100(offset) mappa16x16

    0677be - 06785e Rail Press. Gov. - Req. rail pressure at cranking: f(rpmTB,pTcool)
    conversion value 8,000000 x (eprom) - 100(offset) map 8x8
    axis (x) RMP (y) axis temperature (c?

    06785e - 067946 Rail Press. Gov. - PrailRef warm-up weight map: f(rpmTB, Qref)
    conversion value 1,600000 x (eprom), map 12x8
    axis (x) RMP (y) axis mm3/str

    067946 - 0679e4 Rail Press. Gov. - PrailRef warm-up factor of the map: f(pTcool, Patm)
    conversion value 5,00000 x (eprom), map 8x8
    axis(x) temperature c? axis (y) Patm mbar


    0679e4 - 067a9a Rail Press. Gov. - Tfuel dep. rail press. lim.map:f(rpmTB,Tfuel)
    conversion value 8,00000 x (eprom) -100(offset) map 8x8
    axis(x) RMP (y) axis temperature (c?
    Sure of the values of conversion? Do not come to me...

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    I'm sure to 100x100, do not think to find the values the expected and easily compressible,
    we are talking about the rail as a function of, for example rail f(rmpTB, Pboost), in practice it is a function of that spread of the values in a table with x= rpm y=mbar, where x=rpm and y=pressure turbocharger from the report, it is evident that the unit of measure of the values in the table ? bar/s
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    Type in the map of the rail pressure 0675BE indicate a conversion factor of 8 ... but in the map we have 1500 that should be already? the value of the rail at which we need to remove the offset of 100, and then 1400... and as a conversion factor for the axis of the mg/stk I is a multiplication factor of 0.002941

    also 0674BE tell me of such a conversion value of 50 - offset of 100.... but taking the peaks that have a value of 199 we will have 199x50 - 100 that I get from 9850... that I do not understand..
    and cos? the other

    I looked at these entries in the damos of the MJD8 and actually have those things that you say but in the MJD6 I are values out also why? perhaps in the first maps are 8-bit while in this 16-bit
    Last edited by leandro89; 20-12-2013 at 17:21

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    Map 0675be lasse indicate mg/stk cio? Y in reality? ? mm3/stk value conversion 0,002930,
    fix the conversion value that in transcribing I typed 8. instead of 1

    Map 0674be Rail pressure max gradient has the unit? bar\s (the cio? in other words, speed? rail pressure)

    Citazione Originally Written by Fede78 Visualizza Messaggio
    I looked at these entries in the damos of the MJD8 and actually have those things that you say but in the MJD6 I are values out also why? perhaps in the first maps are 8-bit while in this 16-bit
    Certainly if you don't see properly, you can't get out of it,
    067494 8bit
    0675be 16bit display normal 8bit ratio conversion x8
    0677be 8bit
    etc..
    Last edited by leandro89; 20-12-2013 at 17:21
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