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    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di cinqueturbo
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    This Mercedes with a similar mod at the end of the SW, I started more.. and me also happened with VW

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    Guys I realized that this is a "guide for disabling the butterflies SWIRL motors Alfa MJT" we are not polluting the post?
    "The only thing that stands between you and your goal are the********* continue to tell you why you can not reach it."

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    Citazione Originally Written by cinqueturbo Visualizza Messaggio
    This Mercedes with a similar mod at the end of the SW, I started more.. and me also happened with VW

    Cattura.jpg

    Guys I realized that this is a "guide for disabling the butterflies SWIRL motors Alfa MJT" we are not polluting the post?
    The IMG attached is the classic area cks of the edc16 (at least the ones I've seen so far are all of them) . And we're talking about engines, alfa mj. Also the one for which he asked the user above is a 147 and has only egr off, no other mod in addition to the cks that you see at the bottom

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    Citazione Originally Written by Errecinque Visualizza Messaggio
    The IMG attached is the classic area cks of the edc16 (at least the ones I've seen so far are all of them) . And we're talking about engines, alfa mj. Also the one for which he asked the user above is a 147 and has only egr off, no other mod in addition to the cks that you see at the bottom
    As I wrote in the car wouldn't start..
    and the checksum are usually 1-3 Bits is not a parade...
    and tell me that changes between a EDC16 ALFA VW MB etc???
    "The only thing that stands between you and your goal are the********* continue to tell you why you can not reach it."

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    Citazione Originally Written by cinqueturbo Visualizza Messaggio
    As I wrote in the car wouldn't start..
    and the checksum are usually 1-3 Bits is not a parade...
    and tell me that changes between a EDC16 ALFA VW MB etc???
    Expected to go for order. He has posted a file that is read from its control unit has already been modified. If the machine goes, it means that the checksum is correct, Then we should not worry about that. Then take this file, modify it if he wants to with the opening of the swirl, and by submitting it, I re correct the checksum. At this point, however, saw that says that the valves are physically eliminated not used to a blessed mace to make this change. Will have the starter motor connected and has no errors in the ecu.

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    Citazione Originally Written by Errecinque Visualizza Messaggio
    Expected to go for order. He has posted a file that is read from its control unit has already been modified. If the machine goes, it means that the checksum is correct, Then we should not worry about that. Then take this file, modify it if he wants to with the opening of the swirl, and by submitting it, I re correct the checksum. At this point, however, saw that says that the valves are physically eliminated not used to a blessed mace to make this change. Will have the starter motor connected and has no errors in the ecu.
    He or she will use a blessed file ori to compare it, and work on his mod, or am I wrong?
    at least that does not rebuild the business, and he makes gold how to work there if you don't know even the ABC of electronics?
    as it would seem that she did in her last file has loaded.. check you for courtesy.
    Aime we speak and we do not understand Errecinque..
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    So tell me that for that area changed I can stay quiet? If you need to change it we think the software automatically? Without that place to place by hand?
    For the gui, For guidance concerning the valves, swirl, of course I'm interested, but I still can't view it unfortunately.
    Another question, yet, once this change was made in the unit to stay in ****llo software the valves always open, and (to me, anyway, have been physically eliminated) you may notice some difference in terms of acceleration response? I have unfortunately known that little bit of vacuum And then a boost around 3000 rpm.

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    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di Errecinque
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    Ah and another thing, if the same file with the same changes, Save it with the ECM and WinOLS, and comparing it, you will see the areas checksum is different because the two software will calculate differently.

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    in the meantime, to familiarize yourself with the ecm I have restored that area the same as the original and resaved the file attached below to know what you think. now there is only the mod the EGR, of course I believe that and says errecinque, in the sense that I have the motor connected but without valves, but tomorrow when I'll have to redo the distribution, I would like to replace my manifold with that of the 140cv that is all aluminum and without valves, in this case, do I need to do this change right? but I'll have to keep the starter motor connected? or the mod does not give you more errors?

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    You guys, both of you have said things more exact, (as, for example, the fact that they are at the ABC with tuning the ecu), we have also realized that my file does not have the swirl disabled, then sooner or later if riaggungo the threshold of the necessary messages and I can read it, I'll try to put it into practice.
    Now the questions were (but I would not get out off topic), if that area at the end of the map that was altered, can be altered or do I have to bring it back to the ori, as in the last attached file, and if once you have applied the above mod to the swirl, you can also physically disconnect the actuator without warning.
    Greetings, and thank you for the patience and the answers that you have given me so far.

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    Citazione Originally Written by MCDJ90 Visualizza Messaggio
    You guys, both of you have said things more exact, (as, for example, the fact that they are at the ABC with tuning the ecu), we have also realized that my file does not have the swirl disabled, then sooner or later if riaggungo the threshold of the necessary messages and I can read it, I'll try to put it into practice.
    Now the questions were (but I would not get out off topic), if that area at the end of the map that was altered, can be altered or do I have to bring it back to the ori, as in the last attached file, and if once you have applied the above mod to the swirl, you can also physically disconnect the actuator without warning.
    Greetings, and thank you for the patience and the answers that you have given me so far.
    Listen to don't stop on the cks, you don't need, your mod file has to force things in the final part modified with respect to the file ori. If you put ori only the cks and let the mod egr and the caricassi with a tool that does not autocorrect, the machine would not be starting. So now, if you have the swirl already been removed do not need to do absolutely nothing, unless you want to make a map to increase performance. In that case, just apply the various changes starting from the file you read with the egr off. I hope to have definitively clarified the situation

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