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    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di flamingsn3Ak3r
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    since you are the first is it normal that I could be wrong,
    anyway:
    - Accelerator pedal: "I have given these increases, because from what I read, increase the sensitivity on the pedal (while reading I saw that the maximum was 25%)
    - Limiter Pair: being a limiter was supposed not only to restrict the amount of fuel without, however, incremnetarla? having seen a map of one, who claimed to have made the thrust (and the users of this forum confirmed) had led the surge to 80 mg of the whole arc (it was on an Audi A4 if I remember correctly)
    - Rail pressure: I gave it a 5% but runs low there is an increase of 10 bar, up to a maximum of 80 bar at the maximum speed (800 points), do you think that is too much? this also read that the maximum was 4 to 5%
    - Limiter Prex Rail: well here, I believe, that if I followed the usual logic of the increments of the rail pressure is normal that I have given a little more in proportion (I have given 7% instead of 6% because I didn't know how she could vary the pressure from the target to the real one)
    - Turbo pressure: here, too, the usual speech of the rail, knowing that ori the machine reaches 1.5 Bar in an overboost then 2500 mbar, and always reading on the forum, I seemed to read that the maximum increment was also here 7%; 176 points if I'm not mistaken should be the equivalent of 0,176 bar, can you confirm? there were experts who were saying that they give increments over the whole map of 150 points to be safe.
    -Turbo pressure f/T: I gave 8% because even here by viewing a map good (confirmed by user) posted on the forum, the above map was 1% more than the turbo pressure, I think, because of the fact that requiring more pressure to the temperature is greater, and then there would be a conflict.

    An overboost fuel injection, prov. and injection phase, as I said I went to intuition:

    An overboost: in the forum I have not found nothing explicit, I know what it is or what could be meant Titanium
    Iniez. Prov: For this car I believe that there are times, but I was not sure
    Injection phase: From the name I thought it was the advance of the flow

    As said in the beginning and also in the various Topic I've done a few tests and I'm trying to learn and I thank to those few who respond,
    however, in the few post that I have written have not been helped
    and in the miles of topic that I have read the information are not so clear or even absent (for a sense give reason to this policy), so I think
    it's useless to respond with tones "makes me angry", "not good" without giving a real solution, as I for one did not do it for work but I try to resolve
    problems on machines and my friends without making a profit, just to learn.
    With this I do not want to trigger a flame but only to say that if you open a forum on the internet and one enrolled't mean he needs or wants to help, not to be
    see what he can do and prevail over others.

    With this, I hope to still be able to receive help to solve this problem, I will try, when I shall have learned, to reciprocate.

    Greetings :-)

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    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di cinqueturbo
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    I replied that way because I was already cooked for a similar problem with a machine from a well-known Top trainer,Engineer,technical,"All" parts of my

    I am attaching the file so we have a couple of laughs..

    Sure I could pretend not to have seen anything by continuing my reading on the post far more interesting continuandoti to send this poor bastard to the Suzuki..
    "The only thing that stands between you and your goal are the********* continue to tell you why you can not reach it."

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    Citazione Originally Written by cinqueturbo Visualizza Messaggio
    I replied that way because I was already cooked for a similar problem with a machine from a well-known Top trainer,Engineer,technical,"All" parts of my

    I am attaching the file so we have a couple of laughs..

    Sure I could pretend not to have seen anything by continuing my reading on the post far more interesting continuandoti to send this poor bastard to the Suzuki..
    I sent it without attaching the file...
    File Allegati File Attachments
    "The only thing that stands between you and your goal are the********* continue to tell you why you can not reach it."

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    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di flamingsn3Ak3r
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    Hello, of course,do not worry,
    unfortunately when you write on the internet you can not give
    the correct emphasis in comparison to when you speak.

    However, I had a look at the map;
    as already said, being still a novice
    I could give you of the assessments are wrong.

    At first glance the changes seem almost the same as mine,
    that is, an overboost increased, not decreased as you say you of the higher values (10%)
    turbo, we are also there about 200 points (0.2 bar), the same Turbo f/T, limiters torque equal to my (50 mg)
    map pedal changed only in the right upper quadrant and then in the first half of the laps
    and with high loads, the pressure in the rail with an increase in the fixed 50 bar, but limiters are not touched
    like those turbo.
    Injection phase and injection in the split, were increased all around 10% but as said I could not tell you
    if it is too little, or the opposite.

    The machine goes into recovery, and smokes a lot of?

    I try to give the synthesis of this map, also to understand my:

    I adjusted both as increases and as the beginning of the same:
    Turbo, Rail, Lim.Torque, and DW (I think you could get more given that it has given to the Lim 50 mg)
    limiters-rail technology and Turbo have not been touched because of the changes that has made this mapper
    not reached the maximum values (at least I think)
    the remaining maps I do not give ratings, especially the injection correction (I think it is the pressure of the low)

    Shoot I am ready to criticism

    Greetings!

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    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di cinqueturbo
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    To say only the symptoms of the car

    The car is beat in acceleration,
    0 Smoke,
    Performance inferior to the original,
    seghettava at a constant speed,
    EGR excluding evil done with software found on the net,

    now it is not as much as by the increase but where from..
    "The only thing that stands between you and your goal are the********* continue to tell you why you can not reach it."

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    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di flamingsn3Ak3r
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    My a light smoke with the pedal at the bottom and the benefits were superior, not a thing excessive, but was going very well, after more than 600 km has done a full of a vending machine branded by a supermarket and just went on the highway, he turned on the light. According to you, this error can be caused by the map? Because it seems to me that they are too related, especially after you have mapped the car no longer had the symptoms of a malfunction type departures difficoltese and jerking and above all the consumption were much higher (5kml)

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    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di cinqueturbo
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    So you're convinced he's done a good job?

    I will say only that the map I don't appreciate it,and do not think a map...
    the car could go a thousand times better,
    and then send the customer to the Suzuki for the various failures and ask us what could be the cause of almost excluding the map?
    hello hello...
    "The only thing that stands between you and your goal are the********* continue to tell you why you can not reach it."

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    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di flamingsn3Ak3r
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    No as I said I am asking for help
    for the map to see it, and given that you are the only one who responds
    if you can give me a "start". However, as mentioned the car from when it was purchased
    he had always had problems with the various sensors, and still, even with the original map,
    the car is bad, instead, with the map made by me it was fine, this is what
    I did go in doubt.

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    flamingsn3Ak3r a tip from a friend novello in your mappings..
    Redo the map from 0 with the ORI, not to say nothing of what you posted and ask for opinions and advice here as the process.
    Live ****** & you Die a HERO !

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    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di flamingsn3Ak3r
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    I made the change from 0 with the ori
    Then if there are errors, and none know how to solve it by saying "laws", "not good" etc the things are 2:

    - who says so does not know how to do
    - answer because it goes well but I want to demotivate

    It is obvious that there are people who know their stuff, many omertosi to keep the job while others teach because he likes to help.

    I reiterate that until someone post a map risolutrice, or with the aid (given that I've already read but say that I did not understand)as I can give for good what you say? You have to see case by case, right?
    For charity is not obliged for anyone but on the 3 cars I posted no one has answered me doubts.
    As long as you talk about German cars or the fiat group for everyone knows everything then it goes to the car business but not the ones mentioned here, and there's a silence that bring back to what I said before.

    I repeat I certainly do not know to map precisely because they are at the beginning, but only 2 have had problems post mapped between which one is this and one of them was due to the file of departure, which was not ori and it was corrupted and all of them, albeit few, I have mapped as well.

    If really I can do better why not to help, knowing that I have committed to read on the forum and other parts and I tried to give a hand where I could.

    With this I hope I have not done to alter anyone because my purpose is to learn, and the demonstration of said how much is my humility in trying to have a hand.

    Greetings.

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