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[rts]

I agree with Fabiuz the concept as in the diagnosis where to get one not the other then it depends on what one wants to do and what to spend it...then you are talking of clones, around it you will find a thousand and at prices from discaunt but not always of quality, with risk of doing damage...relying on someone who maybe has something used but official because believe me, I burn an ecu is a nanosecond, and repair the damage sometimes it costs much more than a tool.
Ask for advice also to the administrators of the forum will give you straight good.

[Fabiuz]

The official start is out of reach for the common user that wants to learn,how to budget, and we must also consider the speech subscription.
The damage then you can do with the official and often are brought on by inexperience, bad connection etc...
And them are always and only you to answer

[admin]

The official start is out of reach for the common user that wants to learn,how to budget, and we must also consider the speech subscription.
The damage then you can do with the official and often are brought on by inexperience, bad connection etc...
And them are always and only you to answer

If you do damage with the official you have the assistance that helps you, and to 99% solve
with the clone no 0 support except for you and the support of someone externally, and paying you to solve the problem

[Fronzies]

Thanks for the replies, with the seller I had telephone contacts providing me with assistance. Admin I sent him a ***** for the info without an answer

[Fabiuz]

If you do damage with the official you have the assistance that helps you, and to 99% solve
with the clone no 0 support except for you and the support of someone externally, and paying you to solve the problem

Taken from the official manual Alientech:
"This protocol also provides for a direct connection to the connector of the control unit and the welding of one or more wires on the pitches of programming.
Connections and welds, incorrect or poorly made can cause damage to the unit, often irreparably.
In no event will we be liable for any damage caused to the unit during the opening, from connections and welds do not comply as specified in this manual.
The USE OF the PROTOCOL BY the USER IMPLIES FULL AND UNCONDITIONAL ACCEPTANCE OF THESE terms and CONDITIONS, ABSOLVING THE MANUFACTURER FROM ANY LIABILITY AND WAIVING as Of NOW ANY TYPE OF COMPENSATION."

This meant, if you fail, the damage you pay for official or no.

[walter_ie]

Also, according to me, many times damages are caused by lack of experience more than the tools of clones, then it is true that if you block an ecu via the obd with the officers you have a support, but it is also true that as soon as you connect with the instrument before writing that comes out is their responsibility discharge I think starting there is nothing better than a Cock. It costs little, you can use it both in eobd that bdm and boot, then if you plant a ecu you can try it to recover alone. Then the Forums are just for learn, and then help to find a backup and rewrite it, you'll find him. Then, logically, with time and experience trusted that you buy everything and more!!! My advice and make the car very commercial at the beginning, type Fiat group and Vag, so the case never blocks, you have more chances to get out of it with backup or at the max a few money!

[Fabiuz]

The argument is that with the clones, set a variable error in between you and the control unit. the clone in fact.
With the officer you have a support +, a product that is undoubtedly superior.
But if you do the bullshit you pay this was on the juice.

[walter_ie]

I fully agree!!! A official remains always an official. it is less likely to break, unlike the clones, and you have a support. Then you have to decide what to do. So the glitches occur both with official that with clones, so if you decide to do this for a living you have to put in the account also.