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    Citazione Originally Written by GPoint Visualizza Messaggio
    In fact, looking good I think I have recovered the location of several maps, I was fooled by the ECM that many of the things the calls in a different way than the GT.
    I seem to have found out driver 3 maps for the limiter IQ and 4 for the lambda could be?
    You exact. The Iq limiters are always the same for? if you trust the driver of the Ecm is not good why? so much wrong all over. You have to scroll all over the map in 2d to understand it well and find everything

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    You're right, looking at the BP of the various maps nothing do to with what you see from the driver. At most I use it to retrieve the addresses of some of the maps.

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    Hello, at the end you have solved the problem of the 85mm3? I am also in the same situation. Most of what I can not, even if it is from the map I require a little more.

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    Citazione Originally Written by GPoint Visualizza Messaggio
    Hello, at the end you have solved the problem of the 85mm3? I am also in the same situation. Most of what I can not, even if it is from the map I require a little more.
    Resolved for over a year, but they are not solutions that do I'm sorry.

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    Not a problem, and rightly so I understand your choice. It means that if I don't find solutions I will be enough 85mm3 :-) even if after the 3500rpm down a little bit.
    Thanks anyway

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    Citazione Originally Written by jacktheripper2 Visualizza Messaggio
    Resolved for over a year, but they are not solutions that do I'm sorry.
    good spirit of collaboration. "applause"
    Live ****** & you Die a HERO !

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    Citazione Originally Written by tranky Visualizza Messaggio
    good spirit of collaboration. "applause"
    Not me, I definitely with Jack, even if I can't do less than quotarti and to say that I've ripped the thoughts from the head.... but resentment 0 Good for him.

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    Citazione Originally Written by jacktheripper2 Visualizza Messaggio
    Resolved for over a year, but they are not solutions that do I'm sorry.
    Hi Jack, I don't want to have the solution, but if you expose a couple of questions, could you tell me your thought about it?

    I trove the map that pertain to advances, which are 5 in sequence, where the first 3 and the last scalatate to 80, and the fourth (I think a post injection) scaled to 85. By doing all the calculations between degrees of advance and duration of injection, I noticed that the rpm 3750 with iq higher than 70, the phase of fuel injection that starts monstrously to be paid in advance. To name just a few:

    At 3000 RPM I have a advance for IQ of 80 is about 14 degrees, while the duration for this IQ is about 19 degrees.
    To 3750 RPM, I have an advance for IQ of 80 to about 22.5 degrees, while the duration for this IQ is about 21 degrees.
    At 4000 RPM I get a advance for IQ of 85 to around 28 degrees, while the duration for this IQ is about 22\23 degrees.

    I think I have calculated well the various conversions, if so it may be that the injection is thus anticipated to end at 4\6 degrees before TDC after the after the 3500 RPM for the high IQ? So my problem IQ limited it might be caused by this factor or simply there are maps that limit?

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    Citazione Originally Written by tranky Visualizza Messaggio
    good spirit of collaboration. "applause"
    I'm sorry but when one of us slams the head months and months trying to figure out what can be then do not disclose online to the first if not all would be able to do every thing you want in the maps..thing that doesn't seem very correct for the people who work there every day..

    Citazione Originally Written by GPoint Visualizza Messaggio
    Hi Jack, I don't want to have the solution, but if you expose a couple of questions, could you tell me your thought about it?

    I trove the map that pertain to advances, which are 5 in sequence, where the first 3 and the last scalatate to 80, and the fourth (I think a post injection) scaled to 85. By doing all the calculations between degrees of advance and duration of injection, I noticed that the rpm 3750 with iq higher than 70, the phase of fuel injection that starts monstrously to be paid in advance. To name just a few:

    At 3000 RPM I have a advance for IQ of 80 is about 14 degrees, while the duration for this IQ is about 19 degrees.
    To 3750 RPM, I have an advance for IQ of 80 to about 22.5 degrees, while the duration for this IQ is about 21 degrees.
    At 4000 RPM I get a advance for IQ of 85 to around 28 degrees, while the duration for this IQ is about 22\23 degrees.

    I think I have calculated well the various conversions, if so it may be that the injection is thus anticipated to end at 4\6 degrees before TDC after the after the 3500 RPM for the high IQ? So my problem IQ limited it might be caused by this factor or simply there are maps that limit?
    No advances will not focus on some of the sw there are 5 maps of the main (in addition to 5 for regeneration), while on the other there are 6 maps (the type on the file of the my juliet), after the llimitatore is another map advance usa after a request of 260nm, as the map is equal to the other part of precisely the area of high rpm, if you do a log you'll see that at 4000 rpm you have 20 degrees seems to me to be stock. On the map this last map at full load I think it is all based on the original iq raising iq by unlocking the iq limiter you'll advance payments that are too high.. To 4000 rpm if known the value of 28 degrees is for 85mm3, but from stock to those rides ago 70mm3 not 85
    Make a log from the stock by selecting the engine rpm, iq main, advance, main and times main injection and you will see well how it works.. However, at 4000 rpm it ends up good or bad at the tdc and just after the 4000 start to finish before tdc

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    Citazione Originally Written by jacktheripper2 Visualizza Messaggio
    No advances will not focus on some of the sw there are 5 maps of the main (in addition to 5 for regeneration), while on the other there are 6 maps (the type on the file of the my juliet), after the llimitatore is another map advance usa after a request of 260nm, as the map is equal to the other part of precisely the area of high rpm, if you do a log you'll see that at 4000 rpm you have 20 degrees seems to me to be stock. On the map this last map at full load I think it is all based on the original iq raising iq by unlocking the iq limiter you'll advance payments that are too high.. To 4000 rpm if known the value of 28 degrees is for 85mm3, but from stock to those rides ago 70mm3 not 85
    Make a log from the stock by selecting the engine rpm, iq main, advance, main and times main injection and you will see well how it works.. However, at 4000 rpm it ends up good or bad at the tdc and just after the 4000 start to finish before tdc
    On my I have 5 maps, the last 4 BP related to IQ are 65 70 75 80. To 70x4000Rpm has advance of 23.5 for a duration of 20, 70x4250Rpm has advance 27, for duration of 21. Going up the last 2 BP (75 and 80) at 4000Rpm I advance of 28 and then from the pb to the previous (3750Rpm begins to climb). The original you are right to say that those rides do not get to more than 70. Anyway, I redid the advances since the 80\85 IQ to get there, at least up to the fourth gear, and, in fact, to equal the IQ of the motor to me seems to rise more quickly. I just went to change where the advance payments were very high, trying to keep me more or less 1\2 degrees before TDC. I don't know if it is correct, as the logic I took inspiration from the map Ori my GT 1900 where the advances ended up about a couple of degrees before TDC, and reading some very interesting discussions on the forum, where you spoke. I hope that as the logic is correct, I would not like to break the engine.

    For the fact that the machine limits in the fifth and sixth, I'm doing logs and testing on the maps lambda and on some maps after the request torque to the pedal, I gave a look to that of a 159 with the same engine and I have seen some differences. It seems that in the lower gears do not have the time limit, instead of the more long you. Also, it seems to me (I'm not 100% sure) that the limits of a particular IQ, in fact, in a map that I had as the limit of 85 I restricted to 75 to about 4000Rpm. In another test where I set up the 90 I restricted to 80, but I'm not sure. Can't i do log every day, and perhaps a certain condition changes.

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