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    perfect then we had arrived.
    then how do I change for example the number of revolutions can I change the mm3 injected.....so if by BP step from 70 to 75 mm3, automatically, I have done that for example, if the first to 3500 rpm 70mm3 was a pressure 1200mbar....now at 3500 rpm are 75mm3 injected to 1200mbar? just this change to increase the flow rate of the diesel? of course, by making changes to the BP similar in the map.....

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    if you change the BP,for example, rail pressure, you need to adjust the maps relative to the pressure in the rail, and so on,otherwise it would not make sense to change them.

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    Citazione Originally Written by ducati83 Visualizza Messaggio
    perfect then we had arrived.
    then how do I change for example the number of revolutions can I change the mm3 injected.....so if by BP step from 70 to 75 mm3, automatically, I have done that for example, if the first to 3500 rpm 70mm3 was a pressure 1200mbar....now at 3500 rpm are 75mm3 injected to 1200mbar? just this change to increase the flow rate of the diesel? of course, by making changes to the BP similar in the map.....
    No, I know that I have explained myself badly, BP are used to identify the point in the map and then the value in the Z-axis of THE BP are the current input (and therefore the conditions snapshots of operation).
    If you increase the BP 70 to 75 mm3 don't do anything but change the working point of the map.
    In your example I think you refer to the map Rail pressure. If you change the BP 70 to 75 would you not do other things that decrease the operating pressure, the one that was expected to be 70 mm3 after the change would be achieved at 75.

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    the BP is used to identify what can be written in the map, that'll explain it to you better as the abscissa and the y-coordinate in a cartesian plane, for example in the EDC16C39 where in the ECM are required torque during the standard terms and conditions, and the driver tells you the percentage of the right to the left and spins from top to bottom, if you go to see the BP you will find increasing values up to 8192, which is the maximum pedal force and increasing values up to 6000 rpm (if I'm not mistaken) that define the turns, all the map to find the relationship between them, i.e. with the 10% of the pedal at 2000 rpm you have that the pair (IDEAL) request
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    hmmm now I'm embarrassed.....
    then we try to summarize a little bit: if you look at the image I attached....I the maximum value of the circle 2 the port 7800 if I'm not mistaken starting from 7000,now if I save and back on the map in mm3) of each curve, I can't find 4500giri 70mm3 4000giri 60mm3 but I wrote 4500giri 78mm3 4000giri 60mm3 , etc, etc, then if you load the file, what happens to me?is injected or no greater quantity? diesel fuel at that pressure written in the table?and for clarity also the individual values in the table are called BP?

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    depends on the injection time if you get the ecu that those are 78 mm3), you have to make sure that the injector is open for the right time (or almost for us mere mortals) to inject 78 mm3, if you bring only the BP 78 mm3 but not adapt to the times (70 brought to 78) to inject less fuel
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    simply to 78 mm3, you have the pressure that you had a 70 mm3, as a result of 70 mm3, you'll have a pressure more low. The quantity? do not change it, only decrease the pressure

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    You why? in this case we speak of pressure but not so in all the maps
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    so summing up if increase as said before, the BP of the map pressure injectors in the deal? mm3...I have to go to adjust the pressure logically....so as not to be lower than before and adjust the mark-up increasing times of injected?

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    No then if you more the map rail pressure referring to the bp of the part (mm3) injected tell the ecu to inject 80 (counting the bonus) and need that pressure to ****llo to increase the injected fuel does not change anything, you still have to adjust the map with times and unlock the limiters of diesel to inject more
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