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    THE AVERAGE USER L'avatar di Metropolis
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    Ok thanks magi for your help...seen that? I have both the titanium and the programmer now I see a p? I give him a adjusted on this map....I hope I succeed...there are also two other torque limiters out of the driver...we hope that can find them...thanks a lot...I will keep you updated

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    for those I'll help you...from 91570 to 91586, limits the torque of the motor according to the rpm

    from 915a8 to 91616, limits the torque of the motor according to the temperature of the diesel
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    azz those are two limiters? kill, and who would have ever thought...at first sight does not have the usual panettone from the torque limiter..now I some questions arise...the values that are negative should bring the original or rimanerli as they are? for the turbo pressure of how many points we should take it? or better yet how to change it, usually on the bosh every 100 points is equivalent to 0.1...on the marelli how does it work?
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    the map pedal does not have a value in the negative...according to me lifes as you posted must be something else....
    I have no way to view your file, but take a look at this screen so you realize that the form must have the drivers wish...that there are two consecutive and I values in the negative I don't see....
    the file and the 1.3 multijet 70cv of the panda-opel corsa but I think that the characteristic curves are as if mounting a 6jf...


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    for me to agree that parts from the original map and the change you as much as you can, do a lot of tests and will make your experience.
    for the turbo pressure, the conversion factor ? 1 bar = 14 psi, so if you have as the value of 170 means that you have 170*14 = 2380 mbar

    *munro

    if your screen also enable the values in the negative, you'll see that those cakes that come bubbling up (in the first 3 humps on each map) are actually? curves in the negative
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    sar?...but I this thing I understand very well..if the descriptor of the DW are Nm of torque that it has to describe in map -50 nm??not ? the engine pu? go to "zero" in the pair a time from 0 Nm of torque.....
    I say that the map that the sw 2-money calls injection as a function of temp, which must be either a limiter gas oils as a function of the engine temperature, or a map lambda...
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    around my parts it is said that c'? dull the worst of those who do not want to hear...
    just look at the map in 2D without the use of the ecm titanium drivers and you'll find that ? the exact same map that winols is calling you driver wish and driver wish 2
    if you don't believe us, we've got you covered (click to enlarge):

    if, after this further proof you're still not convinced that the map is a limiter galosio then jet to the sponge, not s? in what other way can explain it
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    ok but I do not understand the meaning of values in the negative in the torque required pedal?? how can you? a motor to produce-50Nm of torque??and one thing mechanically impossible for what it s? I....for this, I say that makes no sense, the DW did so well?...understood the magi??
    among other things, it seems to me that the value in the map you should convert to 0,023438 if I'm not mistaken...
    symptomssinus we read -50 and we want to convert to that factor we will have -11,719 Nm...and we are always l?..the reasoning that I mentioned above...
    P. S: don't get mad...help me understand...thanks!
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    I personally do not arabbio for these things, ? only that I didn't know pi? how do you understand that that was the map the pedal
    why? put the values in the negative not the s? unfortunately, I have no idea
    for? I assure you that all of the 1.3 mjet as the accelerator pedal also have values in the negative
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    what I have to ask ? but if you do not know, because the values of DW in some points are in the negative as you can change these points if not then you s? what you are doing??
    not ? a criticism/attack against you, magi, for love of god and only that I would like to understand I have something more in the first place...
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