Spark is not a party and does not enter into the diagnosis

[MustangGT]

and here is a little attention to read......and the first thing I suggested and check the power supply.

that the immo is active or no diagnosis still enters.....

the fact that it goes to 3 and then 4 and already out of my reach....if and a valve that creates this defect and already mechanical.

I don't remember exactly who in this forum know the GPL but will have maybe read it, and ago next.

What I am thinking and that the first departure is gasoline always and then switch to LPG.

now I don't know if you've tried to get it to start only on petrol.

because in these spark, I have also seen only one ecu motor that does everything, but are usually 2, one for the management of LPG and the other for the gas, then if the first departure to gasoline must not be not set in motion.

Now If you do not rocordo hurt the system, switch LPG/Petrol and autonomous, and which is locked on GPL and not puts you in motion for that?

[Giuseppe2016]

Thanks mustang for the interest already tried the switch and it works the car only part of the spray which made you think as well. Me a valve and with the spray part because it increases compression and when the bike goes to three

I doubt it is on the electronic one because I don't know well, and two, because if the machine is in motion, the ECU is powered at 100% and it is working,it may work badly, but the diagnosis comes, however, and because to me no?

And a question to which I was not able to answer me, and before see if I have the valves routes the injectors etc, I would like to resolve this

[MustangGT]

you feel you've already tried to enter the diagnosis when in and turned on?....not all of the ecu allow it, but this seems to me to have you.

another test, and get from one shambles to another ecu, even if not the scodifichi and see if you can get into.

you may have 2 different problems, one mechanical and one electronic.

your considerations are valid, it's best to first try to make a diagnosis.

That then is locked for other reasons I don't know, an alfa 156, I did this prank, sensor rpm messed up, the engine that went up and down the rpm range, and in the diagnosis not made me enter, to say that we are mad in 5, and little!......

could you try with the direct access to the ecu directly from the pin, the done on a EDC15 who do not want to know, the other mange.

Basically you log in after diagnosis with the K-line directly to the ecu, leaving it connected, you need to isolate the wire the K-line and see if you can get into.

or even, take it out and try to connect on the bench.

and difficult to give you a hand from here.....I of these I have settled as explained, with the problem of power supply to the injectors.

[sergiot]

from the description of the mode of starting, with spray, gives me the idea that you have the petrol injectors are almost closed. also the fact of going to 3 at the minimum.
before putting his hand to the injectors, I would recommend you to use the car only on gasoline consumed at least a full. it may be that you sblocchino or otherwise improve.
sometimes you only have to make gas cool pump that improves.
the problem of diagnosis is different, it is another thing. and in any case even with the diagnosis, don't you see if the injector is about to expire.
certainly it is a proof scabby, but not more than you tribulando now.

[Giuseppe2016]

To isolate the lina k do you mean the pin on the ECU and connect the like, for example, with the cock, put the green wire on pin k-line when the read more

I have never done ste tests with the diagnosis, and then on the obd connector of the diagnosis to which pin colleagues?

However, l I've brought it in the dealership I was starting to lose the only time I don't have schematics, and I know it. Also little this car if I was pero managed to go into the diagnosis I would have had a basis from which to start so blind and cannot find the fault

I'll keep you updated as soon as I know something thanks a lot for your interest

[MustangGT]

To isolate the lina k do you mean the pin on the ECU and connect the like, for example, with the cock, put the green wire on pin k-line when the read more

I have never done ste tests with the diagnosis, and then on the obd connector of the diagnosis to which pin colleagues?

However, l I've brought it in the dealership I was starting to lose the only time I don't have schematics, and I know it. Also little this car if I was pero managed to go into the diagnosis I would have had a basis from which to start so blind and cannot find the fault

I'll keep you updated as soon as I know something thanks a lot for your interest

yes I think he did the right thing, having electronics means to disassemble so the Czech is not good way to look for the problem, on the contrary often worsens.

It is also possible that as happened to me a few senore failure that keeps impallata and will not enter diagnosis.

For me and a pleasure to imagine....then, if you can get say the issue so that we may all learn a new thing .

[Giuseppe2016]

Guys, in the meantime, thanks to the availability the problem on the spark and been fixed was a fuse in the engine compartment which did not enter the diagnosis and the ECU then was wrong and this is the explanation of the dealer

[MustangGT]

This is the most big C.............TA that I have ever heard from a dealership......must be that the day they had little imagination.

meanwhile, if the OBD does not have tessione does not enter diagnosis from anywhere......because all the diagnosis especially the drivers take advantage of the alimenteazione supplied from the power service for the diagnosis VS the OBD/OBDII

Some time ago, I repaired the central locking of the smart four four, and I couldn't etrare in diagnosis cause fuse blown where the same fed also the OBD.

Then the problems were other, but to make it clear that in addition to powering the OBD ec always some other system that does not work.

I think that the ecu gasoline was blocked and they did the realignment with direct link.

I asked a client that I did a repair which I knew was gas and told me that often these spark you lock the ecu and make this defect.