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    Citazione Originally Written by magi1984 Visualizza Messaggio
    full load means that the maps are used by the ecu when you crush a tablet of the accelerator pedal
    OK, and what I thought too, but doubt I are on the axis in which we find mg/strokes, as if that map to work in a different way... and then, however, I have never heard any other units that have maps that act at full load...
    However, always edc15, classic 1.9 TDI engine that has power and torque to climb a cylinder...

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    hello. duration 10 x 10 we are interested in ? the first in front of those 4. the other acts up to 2500 rpm. and is never touched is not needed
    Defined at full load can be a confusing that the map is read tot. advance degree = start of injection. is read from the 25? degrees btdc on,then at high rpm.
    Then it reads only the last boxes talking about the grid; on the 2.0 tdi barely the law q is the map why? stops at 25.4? the advance as limiter soi. and when the law has very low values and then at the top, a little diesel fuel and ends the thrust of the classic tdi.
    the conversion factor is 0.023437 on edc16 while 0.023437 -78 on edc15 for the duration of the injection to the beginning of injection.

    you will notice that increasing q is the map, the engine will start' to go strong to the high regimi. always read, to make it read better and understand how it works you have to do is log shipping monitoring advance btdc and duration of injection.

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    Citazione Originally Written by puntospeed1.3 Visualizza Messaggio
    hello. duration 10 x 10 we are interested in ? the first in front of those 4. the other acts up to 2500 rpm. and is never touched is not needed
    Defined at full load can be a confusing that the map is read tot. advance degree = start of injection. is read from the 25? degrees btdc on,then at high rpm.
    Then it reads only the last boxes talking about the grid; on the 2.0 tdi barely the law q is the map why? stops at 25.4? the advance as limiter soi. and when the law has very low values and then at the top, a little diesel fuel and ends the thrust of the classic tdi.
    the conversion factor is 0.023437 on edc16 while 0.023437 -78 on edc15 for the duration of the injection to the beginning of injection.

    you will notice that increasing q is the map, the engine will start' to go strong to the high regimi. always read, to make it read better and understand how it works you have to do is log shipping monitoring advance btdc and duration of injection.
    thank you very much, this is your only post that you have written you have taught me more? of all the discussions read all morning! Now ? all clear!
    one thing I did not go back, but if you factor in 0.023437 (-78 offset) also applies to the duration does not return pi? nothing!

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    no duration no

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    ok, then I confirm that ? all clear!

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    Citazione Originally Written by SandroMarciano Visualizza Messaggio
    I open this discussion because? I wanted to sapene of pi? on these engines, in particular, I have in the workshop a tdi 3 cylinders. I have read I think all of what ? written in Italian on the internet in relation to these maps, I quote:
    the maps that regulate the duration are 6, 2 of these are 10x10 and you will find one at the beginning and one at the end, I read that "they are at full load" but I don't know what it means.
    the other 4 are for the 4 thresholds of temperature of the motor, from the pi? cold to the pi? hot.

    then some of the other maps are an important part of the IS (injection start) that are 10 maps in a row without the axis shown, very strange why? should adjust the timing advance, fuel injection for? if I enter the conversion factor 0,023438, I observe that the values are completely unpacked (someone speaks of an offset). About IS I read that you change in the negative.

    Someone can? confirm if there? that swap ? correct?
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    There are 9 or 10 maps advance soi. to 90 degrees, water is used the most recent map.

    The other 4 maps duration are read on the basis of the degrees of the beginning of the advance.
    I do not know with precision here is an EXAMPLE to understand the logic.
    up to 10?btdc degrees law the first
    up to 15?btdc the 2?to
    up to 20?btdc the 3?to
    up to 24?btdc the 4?to
    then 25?btdc and then the 10 x10

    of course, if increases in the advance start varies quite a bit as they are read

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    ok, so to make a mod linear ? well anyway to change all of the 4-5 duration, and the last advance, right?

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    Limiter anticipo.jpglimiter advance 2.jpg

    These could be limiters of the advance? there are a few others? then I asked if there is a limiter duration time will try? better in the map, I saw a straight line with a value of 1500punti, which, when multiplied by 0,023437 d? 35?.

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    I can still see the images.
    limiter duration does not exist, the most by ? more from life. always check with the log on this site may differ to some degree with the calculation.
    the limiter advance is a bit after the advance, depending on the models. is set on 25-26 degrees; on gaps versions fap is to 27. looks like a advance curve.

    you can only change the duration of 2 , 1, and the last is not usually needed to lengthen the injection of the low travel. if known duration 3 and 4 have values much more downs. if you want to tap tap only on the last 2, 3 columns that you will feel when even from low revs put it all down.

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    I would add that if you edit with ecm durations, you'll be a little bad, because when you save, makes you copy the increments of duration(boostxrpm 1) on all 4 corners the same. so you can smoke for nothing and seghettare

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