EDC16C - impariamola!

[jovandj]

then well go down a bit more in detail, talking about the map informed, then this is gold, I'm doing a bit of accounts, the only way we have to know the length angular dell inj, and then indicatively, the advance to give and starting with the prex rail and calculate calmly through the times inj and turns the duration in degrees, I'm armed with a pen and paper and I have come to a concusione correct me if I'm wrong, the 1.9 16V E4, basic and very late from 1250 to 3000 rpm all the iq and anticipatissimo from 3000 up with the low iq and early enough for the average-to-high iq, reasoning and technical-practical I think it's been done for noise reduction and abatement of nox during the combustion, of course, to get something more you can anticipate at the bottom, by my calculations you have done (more or less accurate, I think) we have an average of 4-5 degrees of post inj to in the region 1250-3000 (and in some cases 7) and then let's say 10 degrees of advance for the low iq to rev higher and a couple of degrees for iq higher, correct??

[jacktheripper2]

Guys but 1 can advance to the intermediate arrangement?? From 1500 to about 3000 for iq 50 and 60 mm3, and of course, to come down, and 0.2 to 25 mm3 can create problems? ?

then well go down a bit more in detail, talking about the map informed, then this is gold, I'm doing a bit of accounts, the only way we have to know the length angular dell inj, and then indicatively, the advance to give and starting with the prex rail and calculate calmly through the times inj and turns the duration in degrees, I'm armed with a pen and paper and I have come to a concusione correct me if I'm wrong, the 1.9 16V E4, basic and very late from 1250 to 3000 rpm all the iq and anticipatissimo from 3000 up with the low iq and early enough for the average-to-high iq, reasoning and technical-practical I think it's been done for noise reduction and abatement of nox during the combustion, of course, to get something more you can anticipate at the bottom, by my calculations you have done (more or less accurate, I think) we have an average of 4-5 degrees of post inj to in the region 1250-3000 (and in some cases 7) and then let's say 10 degrees of advance for the low iq to rev higher and a couple of degrees for iq higher, correct??

You are all correct. At low revs a little degrees Atdc also serve to load before the turbine and put the injection in the pms is not good. For? a couple of degrees them you can give all without problems. The 2.0 mjet having injectors best for example are a bit closer to tdc but also them you can? improve a little bit.
The upper end of injection ? often before tdc for a brake motor in the release. I have lowered a bit anywhere after 3500 and raised below. Anticipating to lower the car ? changed from day to night, for? we need to give it at least 1.5-2 degrees to feel differences, to? so as I have it now has a lot more reattivit? and it makes the climbs much pending at 1200 engine rpm by tapping the accelerator in spite of the turbine world. Giving advance, 'you will lose' a bit of spool of the turbo but can you? always resolve the map with the vgt

[jovandj]

practically all explains why the map deceived is better below or above?? for strength, lengthening the tinj and leaving the advance ori is much more to spool the turbo at the bottom going to recover the excess of the advance at the top, there is no other explanation for it?? of course, the mistaken party does not provide the substantial increase that is from the limiter IQ of over-even if more and destined to go down...right??

[jovandj]

I believe that among other things, it is not expedient to moddare advance iq of less than 17,5, then from what I understand I can moddare quietly from 17.5 to 60 and even 70 giving 2 degrees celsius from 1250 to 3000?? this and synthesis

[jacktheripper2]

I believe that among other things, it is not expedient to moddare advance iq of less than 17,5, then from what I understand I can moddare quietly from 17.5 to 60 and even 70 giving 2 degrees celsius from 1250 to 3000?? this and synthesis

Why? you say 17.5? I have also modified the first. However, due to the fact of the map deceived by raising the injection times as well as send in the spool before the turbo the amount? injected increases more than one mod informed, unless you lift enough of the driver's wish and down much to the lambda.

[jovandj]

you are the one and the obvious fooled by considerable advantages in this sense, we can say easy, because I have noticed with the diagnosis that at a minimum we practically 5mm3 of diesel just touches the gas already practically leaving the clutch in first without giving gas it rises to 10 to 15 mm3 then I believe that it is not useful to give advance under this quantity....of course, I think not, and I'm sure you that advice??

[jacktheripper2]

Guys but 1 can advance to the intermediate arrangement?? From 1500 to about 3000 for iq 50 and 60 mm3, and of course, to come down, and 0.2 to 25 mm3 can create problems? ?

you are the one and the obvious fooled by considerable advantages in this sense, we can say easy, because I have noticed with the diagnosis that at a minimum we practically 5mm3 of diesel just touches the gas already practically leaving the clutch in first without giving gas it rises to 10 to 15 mm3 then I believe that it is not useful to give advance under this quantity....of course, I think not, and I'm sure you that advice??

At a minimum the injection varies from 4mm3 almost 10mm3, depending on whether hot or cold. Just from the gas sale even at 20, and pi?, depends on how you set up the request and the lambda.
The only way to make things right ? make the necessary calculations and see where and how much to lower/raise according to what you want to achieve.
To have practically the same results as a map deceived instead put the lambda to 0.5 and see how to inject if you lift the pedal. If you want you can also just make it more responsive gear changes without too much pedal for gaits quiet.

[jovandj]

I realized then scendero 15 in change to the payments and so I move forward with the tests as recommended by you I am giving 2 degrees of fixed advance, and now I stocalcolando to exactly where and how to decrease the high, of course, with lambda of 0.5 stoichiometric mega ultra hyper fat and obvious that fumer?, then I go quiet for these 2 degrees

[jovandj]

I did some tests giving 2 degrees of advance from 1250 to 3000 from 15 to 60mm3 of course, at 70 I have given because I upgraded to the 80's, the BP, and then there would never read it but I have not noticed great improvements and, indeed, the engine is more noisy and hard to climb rpm, after the past 2000 rpm and has to be significantly better up to 2600 2800 then be equal to the first, of course, who knows why??

[asdone]

then well go down a bit more in detail, talking about the map informed, then this is gold, I'm doing a bit of accounts, the only way we have to know the length angular dell inj, and then indicatively, the advance to give and starting with the prex rail and calculate calmly through the times inj and turns the duration in degrees, I'm armed with a pen and paper and I have come to a concusione correct me if I'm wrong, the 1.9 16V E4, basic and very late from 1250 to 3000 rpm all the iq and anticipatissimo from 3000 up with the low iq and early enough for the average-to-high iq, reasoning and technical-practical I think it's been done for noise reduction and abatement of nox during the combustion, of course, to get something more you can anticipate at the bottom, by my calculations you have done (more or less accurate, I think) we have an average of 4-5 degrees of post inj to in the region 1250-3000 (and in some cases 7) and then let's say 10 degrees of advance for the low iq to rev higher and a couple of degrees for iq higher, correct??

The reason why after 3000 rpm the advance is amplified ? why? you are already? ball with the rail, then from this moment on, do not leap up? together with the laps, allowing the reduction of time, and if you want to deliver the same quantity? in the right angle, you begin to disburse the first!