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    Citazione Originally Written by msport Visualizza Messaggio
    not I think that in this forum the professionals do not yield information on the contrary, I believe that it is very rich in valuable information, however, I see that the beginner demand more and more and are never happy, even if in practice they have the food ready,also wrapped if it does not intervene none of them could also be caused by the fact that the question is incomprehensible, or is penza differently etc etc then do not ever all the grass a beam
    msport does not ? to open a controversy, but us beginners not ? we want the food ready at least I speak for me but if the "claim" (that anyway ? a misnomer) ? why? we want to learn more? so stop asking and go to the facts as they have done for the professionals when they were beginners like us....
    then ? a spinning wheel..I can understand that professionals have invested time and money to know what they know ? rightly don't want to share it with the first to come to? if you sign up for a forum like this where you should share with us? the more you believe appropriate, but rather give aid with the dropper and then not ? even correct that against perhaps their true purpose is to subscribe, and to increase a p? turnover by selling maps online....
    pu? be that has broken the normality? that usually sets apart all the forum, or that abia misunderstood everything, and this truly is a forum different from the others but for now, this my speech ? what I think....
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    I'm sorry, msport I would not feel the same so, you are right that there are valuable information, however, we do not see them until we reach the 50 posts, and until then all we can do is to exchange information among beginners.
    Sorry again, maybe this ? off topic.

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    Citazione Originally Written by munro Visualizza Messaggio
    msport does not ? to open a controversy, but us beginners not ? we want the food ready at least I speak for me but if the "claim" (that anyway ? a misnomer) ? why? we want to learn more? so stop asking and go to the facts as they have done for the professionals when they were beginners like us....
    then ? a spinning wheel..I can understand that professionals have invested time and money to know what they know ? rightly don't want to share it with the first to come to? if you sign up for a forum like this where you should share with us? the more you believe appropriate, but rather give aid with the dropper and then not ? even correct that against perhaps their true purpose is to subscribe, and to increase a p? turnover by selling maps online....
    pu? be that has broken the normality? that usually sets apart all the forum, or that abia misunderstood everything, and this truly is a forum different from the others but for now, this my speech ? what I think....

    Listen here nobody can afford, contact the pm and tell you I do this,I'll do that for tot or you write me in pm because? if I notice it I'll slam out,clarified this, the forum offers a service files on-line so those who need it can take advantage but for all those who want to understand have opened a post asking a question and they had answers that the few or many that may have already a beautiful thing,and apart from this, the forum has several posts from which to take example now I did not understand if you think I should do a video course and put it here,do not compare this forum with others why? otherwise I recommend you to attend the other.
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    Citazione Originally Written by lupak Visualizza Messaggio
    I'm sorry, msport I would not feel the same so, you are right that there are valuable information, however, we do not see them until we reach the 50 posts, and until then all we can do is to exchange information among beginners.
    Sorry again, maybe this ? off topic.

    According to you, if you do not put this rule, of 50 messages useful, what happened? Towel I say that after you have created a database of files ori,filled the forum guides with a lot of explanations and screen,have included a section with several technical manuals,filled the forum software and all this for free ( sorry if it is a little) I would have seen users to sign up,even cagarci for a presentation,download and disappear according to you would be correct?
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    Citazione Originally Written by msport Visualizza Messaggio
    According to you, if you do not put this rule, of 50 messages useful, what happened? Towel I say that after you have created a database of files ori,filled the forum guides with a lot of explanations and screen,have included a section with several technical manuals,filled the forum software and all this for free ( sorry if it is a little) I would have seen users to sign up,even cagarci for a presentation,download and disappear according to you would be correct?
    You msport you have reason to the rules,at the bottom of us beginners (at least I speak for me ) we try to understand something about the mod. and we don't want the meal ready.Any advice ? well I agree.

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    Citazione Originally Written by lupak Visualizza Messaggio
    You msport you have reason to the rules,at the bottom of us beginners (at least I speak for me ) we try to understand something about the mod. and we don't want the meal ready.Any advice ? well I agree.
    The best way to learn ? learn from maps already? ready, in the sense that you do make a map by a professional and then to l? you will have the best ideas for moddare. See the mod and the studies, try to understand what they are and why? moddate cos?. In case the try making small variations to understand the impression that gives you.
    Last edited by dvdtuning; 05-10-2012 at 09:53

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    Citazione Originally Written by msport Visualizza Messaggio
    Listen here nobody can afford, contact the pm and tell you I do this,I'll do that for tot or you write me in pm because? if I notice it I'll slam out,clarified this, the forum offers a service files on-line so those who need it can take advantage but for all those who want to understand have opened a post asking a question and they had answers that the few or many that may have already a beautiful thing,and apart from this, the forum has several posts from which to take example now I did not understand if you think I should do a video course and put it here,do not compare this forum with others why? otherwise I recommend you to attend the other.
    I st? only esternando my thought that then you can be agree or not with this to me does not change the life, why? precisely ? my thought

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    Citazione Originally Written by munro Visualizza Messaggio
    I st? only esternando my thought that then you can be agree or not with this to me does not change the life, why? precisely ? my thought
    ok the important thing, as I said, do not confuse us with others.
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    I am the living example of a beginner in this forum has received a lot of help from msport, admin and many other users on the pi? experts of me
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    could someone clarify the ideas regarding the map injection times ?
    The axes of the map are : Rpm, IQ, and time of injection;
    If the map has as IQ 60mm3 as the penultimate breakpoint and the last breakpoint 120mm3 and in the mod I would like to get to 85mm3 how should I act ?
    Stretch the axes up to 85mm3 with its time, or increase, in percentage, the various times without touching the axes, or both?

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