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    Citazione Originally Written by carmat70 Visualizza Messaggio
    I would like to participate in the discussion, to? finch? I don't have 50 msg I can not save the file to analyze.
    As soon as I can, the drain and the study.

    Hello

    I'm sorry, but if it is so useless that I write and it seems to me that it is not the first time,there are dozens of other discussions where you don't have to have to download something to participate in, so if you are active them soon reach the 50 posts useful.
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    What has been said so far:

    4DA4E: torque limiter
    4699A and following: rail pressure, and immediately after the two limiters.
    05146E: driver's wish (according to me)
    04CC8E: injection times

    Add the meat to the fire, on which I ask for your opinion
    047D66: ??


    0558E0: turbo Pressure tested.
    05D3BC: turbo Pressure tested. Map "sensitive"! :-)
    055BEO: pressure Limiter f(?)
    056294: Conversion NM/IQ ?
    056684: Controls the EGR
    0566F8: ??

    What disturbs me these motors ? that according to me are SMOKING. If someone knows how to make them go well without them smoke ? please unravel the mystery...obviously not touch the maps right, even if by now I have tried everything.
    What I'd be looking for, and on which I hope, are the maps of the advances of injection: I have the impression that they are low, and therefore the combustion is not done well, as soon as you increase the flow rate of the diesel fuel.
    I seem to have found a 05E058 advances, but I think that's the main map!

    Thanks again to those who participate ;-)

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    Hello,you say that you smoke, but exactly how and when,I have made a little less than the bosch, but I've made, and Not a few, and this smoke exaggerated I have ever seen, possibly, we can analyze a ori + mod if you like.
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    I have done a focus without FAP already? of the series, and my which ? the state raised the FAP.

    On the focus I had to limit the increases (maximum 5%) why? otherwise, he smoked a lot at full load.

    On mine, instead, tends to smoke at partial loads, during "normal" driving conditions. At full load ? very acceptable instead.

    Tomorrow place the mod with the other PC's cos? let's see if something wrong...

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    guys, if I can say to my to limit the fumosit? you have to act on the mechanics, changing the air filter and changing the turbo pressure manually even why? on models up to 2008 using the map does not ? possible, due to the meccanicit? of the turbine, mine goes strong and smokes a little, I am talking about fiesta 1.4 tdci for the other I don't know

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    0566F8 maps are inherent to the management of fap and are used only when the place where the regenerations
    05D7EC have you forgotten ?

    *garrett
    here we talk about the 2.0 136cv and variable geometry managed electronically on the ford/peugeot/volvo even before the 2008
    anyway, even if your 1.4 tdci turbo and mechanical.. the maps limiter turbo there are.

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    ok pine, I'm sorry, I thought you were speaking of sid, in general, on my limiter turbo not c'?, the original pressure was 1bar now ? 1.2 bar from 2000 rpm to 4500giri, measured with a pressure gauge

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    Citazione Originally Written by pinotec Visualizza Messaggio
    0566F8 maps are inherent to the management of fap and are used only when the place where the regenerations
    05D7EC have you forgotten ?
    05d7ec I put it as a limiter on the first post, but I was proved wrong! So I have removed from the list.
    at this point I raise instead 0566f8, that on certain driver is brought by the ecm as an injection...

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    Update:

    04DA4E torque Limiter
    05D7EC torque Limiter

    04699A rail Pressure (and following)
    046EE2 Lim prex rail
    04228A Lim prex rail

    05146E DW

    04CC8E Injection Time (the question remains on the axes, if someone wants to say that...)


    I continued to study with:

    0558E0:

    Turbo pressure (MAP)
    Conversion factor: 0,0829175
    axes: scheme( 850-1000-1250-1500............4500)
    the required torque

    055AE0 & 055B60
    Limiters MAP (the same factor of the previous one)

    055BE0
    Limiter MAP as a function of the ambient pressure
    Axes: scheme(750-800-1000-1250-1500-........4500)
    p.atm (600-700-800-850-900-950-975-1000)

    055CE0
    Limiter MAP as a function of temp.
    axes: the regime (as above)
    degrees (0-10-15-20-25-30-40-60)


    056294 (and following)
    quantity? injected, as a function of speed and torque request. Then ? the map calibration, and not DW.




    They start out interesting things. I'm redoing the map in the light of this information, and then the place. Even if I have to say that for now, all there? it does not explain even the fumosit?, maps touch are these, and without going beyond the 4% increase in... except for DW and lim a pair.

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