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    Read the post #27 here and watch the screen http://www.professionalchiptuning.ne...59-150cv/page3
    The limiter 83 is located before the 110 and it looks like the torque limiter.
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    See? the map tonight when I get back from work.

    Citazione Originally Written by GPoint Visualizza Messaggio
    Yesterday I was a p? absent to blow out the candles and I could not answer, but thanks to your advice I have also found that limiter. Also today I had a p? log with the original unit, they practically do not inject more? of 70mm3, then follow? your advice trying to get around 80 and see how it behaves in the car. I edited the section on the pedal to try to get the value of torque is referred to 80mm3 in the table iq x nm (something more?) so by not having to inrevenire on the times that are already? scaled to that value. Then by reference to the log referred to the air mass measured I lowered the values in the map of lambda from about 650 on, basically when the value of the mass air misuarta drops below that threshold was at the time of release or at low rpm, just to see if acts as a flow restrictor on the diesel, and then lowering the data in the table should allow greater flow of fuel. The limiters iq active (which should be the three with what I've suggested) I've modified in the peaks pi? high, instead of the one in relation to the pedal I have changed by about 50%, leaving may at this point the original values to 0. I hope in some advice, just to test it on the road map.

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    The pedal could go, but I do it otherwise, the lambda takes the values 1 those that are in excess of 1 to 660mg, the turbo only increases the last 2 columns, the second to the last 50 points and the last 100 points should be enough, the limit turbo put it at 2600, rail pressure, I leave you gold, but in your case increases its limiters of 1 percentage point + relative to the map (5%), limit iq out drivers I don't like (apart from the one on team v? well) only increases the peak where the flow of diesel ? maximum setting it to 80mm3.
    You have not informed to the map well, but you could also try it cos?, then do the mod that I recommended, and you can feel the differences in sensation and doing a log.
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    Sounds good to me, I would have diminuto just a little the turbo, instead of incrementaro 150 I would have given 80 or 100.
    If you want to avoid the piccate pressure test to decrease the map vgt. The peaks at that rpm makes them?

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    Citazione Originally Written by franco75 Visualizza Messaggio
    Sounds good to me, I would have diminuto just a little the turbo, instead of incrementaro 150 I would have given 80 or 100.
    If you want to avoid the piccate pressure test to decrease the map vgt. The peaks at that rpm makes them?
    Given that log ? a p? slow (with the netpc makes me a reading every 5 seconds) I would not like the data to be a p? inflated, however I have seen about 2 spikes to about 1.7, and were above the 3800 rpm with the pedal to 100%. Looking at a log with the original map I have seen that to the same rpm, around 3800, I had a peak of about 1,550 Bar. In fact, the data reflects the values increase, even if they are only peaks that seems to reach just in time to lunge decso, after I saw that the pressure drops. But not to have problems with sagging, peaks from 1.7 are hazardous or how to value temporary ? acceptable? Approximately 2500\3000rpm I read maximum values of approximately 1.5 bar is always with the pedal to the 100%

    The further increase of pressure should be due to the amount? diesel fuel is injected, as suggested to me franco, I could lower the turbo or the vgt. What is the difference otterei using a method rather than another?

    For now I want to try to lower the pressure of the turbo, but if I wanted to try to change the vgt how should I behave? Should I reduce the percentages indicated in the table, say, in the last 2\3 columns from 1500RPM?
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    for the vgt you have to watch the BP of the map, in an axis you have laps and in the other you have mm3. or the riscali up to 80 or cmq fix only the last curve.
    I would calre the two maps from 3200-3500 rpm at full load

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    Map of VGT in the last three columns ? scaled to 60 65 70 mm3 (I think, intended as a diesel fuel, just to be sure ), then I could climb to the 60 70 80 and copy the values of the column 70 on the 65 and get 80 on the basis of the other scales. Instead if down with the percentages and just what would be the difference? Tell me if I'm wrong, practically reducing the percentages, for example, 65 and 70 without mod the BP I would get that at 80 I would have less pressure since that would use the BP 70, and I would have less pressure to 65 and 70 mm3 for the percentages pi? low.

    As the limit to stay within a certain tolerance, what do you advise me not to overcome? 1.6 Bar might be enough?

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    you understand very well the operation of the BP, rescales the last two BP (65 and 70) to 70's and 80's. The curve 70 old copy in the new one, then from the last to the penutlima. For the last 80 stoop that of the 70's also a 15%, but only from 3000 rpm up

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    Citazione Originally Written by franco75 Visualizza Messaggio
    you understand very well the operation of the BP, rescales the last two BP (65 and 70) to 70's and 80's. The curve 70 old copy in the new one, then from the last to the penutlima. For the last 80 stoop that of the 70's also a 15%, but only from 3000 rpm up
    Ok, pi? later can I change it and tomorrow I try. However, I recommend lowering those 150 points on the turbo, or I try only to change the bp of the vgt?

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    do you have a map and not a single life adjustment, just lower it where you see the piccate

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    Citazione Originally Written by franco75 Visualizza Messaggio
    do you have a map and not a single life adjustment, just lower it where you see the piccate
    The fact ome I have suggested, otherwise I think you're right, we step the life to adjust and try. Now in the peak arrives at 1.6 Bar and still shooting works on 1.50\1,55 Bar. In a couple of values was slightly higher, but the type that came in 1,62 maximum.

    The only thing that leaves me a p? puzzled ? a little noise that I hear when I pass the 3000 rpm in higher gears 5 and 6, as if there was a "meow", does not look like a metallic noise, but more? type "gnnnnnn", it seems to me that you are present when the rail pressure reaches the maximum value, but I do not know if ? that is the cause.

    I look like an idiot who makes the noises with your mouth.

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