Opinion the map Alfa Gt MJET

[GPoint]

but what? the base map? perhaps you are referring to the nm>iq?? if you believe you did not understand even the logic of the functioning of this ecu...all part of the request in torque that you can with the pedal and on the map....through various other maps and corrections the ecu v? to choose the amount of diesel just to give you to have a given torque and power....
then the map nm>iq is used by the ecu to convert the value in the torque in the diesel and then go to choose the amount of fuel suitable to be injected in the map with the times...

It was not reported to any map in particular, I expressed myself badly, when I wrote "using the base map you can obtain the increments are correct" was to try to understand that passage that I have explained with the example "for the iq and the torque if you look in the map nm>iq you'll see that for 500nm inject(theoretically) 100mm3 of diesel...
then for 1 mm3 of diesel oil you have 5nm of torque...". So on the map the pedal to a certain rpm I ask for x+10% of torque, and this torque value remains in the scale of the map iq\nm I don't have to necessarily increase it, same goes for the map times. If the demand for diesel does not exceed the values shown in the table do not ? need to increase it. Am I wrong?

[munro]

perfect..you have it all figured out....
in the axis of the times you have the highest iq that if I remember well, it should be 85mm3...
so if you don't need more of 85mm3 of the diesel fuel does not have to touch the map nm on iq ne the map with the times...
make the map and then to see if you inject effectively as request in the map, make a log...

[GPoint]

perfect..you have it all figured out....
in the axis of the times you have the highest iq that if I remember well, it should be 85mm3...
so if you don't need more of 85mm3 of the diesel fuel does not have to touch the map nm on iq ne the map with the times...
make the map and then to see if you inject effectively as request in the map, make a log...

Got all that ? a big word HUGE

I take advantage of your helpfulness? to ask you a couple of things, the map, the lambda limits in the diesel fuel if the AFR is not correct? If ? cos? ? necessary to change it in any case or if, for example, by increasing the values of iq and air first introduced (and then I think increasing the turbo) while maintaining the same relationship in the table I can not change it?

I don't know if I have explained...

PS munro thanks again, my ? pi? curiosity?. Not ? my job, I do anything and change car every 10 years, and I like to "know" what guido but between a passing car and the other I forget many things. my old Bravo JTD105 was very different. I always prefer to speak to someone in the industry to map the curiosity? to learn ? strong

[GPoint]

I forgot... the map times the scale of up to 80 if I remember correctly.

[munro]

gpoint map with the lambda ? a map of the limiting fuel to not "smoke" the engine....
all of the effects ? a map of "limited smoke"...
in the axes you have engine rpm and quantity? of the intake air from the maf(mass air flow sensor) in mg.....
the descriptor of this map works in relation afr-lambda....the cio? where 1 ? the afr and stoichiometric afr for diesel equal to 14.5 to 1, that is to say, that as your engine sucks in 600mg of air the ecu to comply with the lambda 1 you know that for those 600mg of the air of 14.5 parts of air to 1 part fuel or 600/14,5=41,37 mg of diesel to be injected....attention I wrote mg, which are milligrams...the ecu of your car works in mm3 and then you have to convert the mg in mm3...then thou shalt make 600/14,5/0,85=48,6mm3.....where to 0.85 ? a conversion factor as a function of the density? diesel is a unit? of weight to volume....
from this, it is understood,I think,that a lambda greater than 1 corresponds to afr more "lean" 14.5...values less than 1 are afr more "fat" 14.5...

[GPoint]

gpoint map with the lambda ? a map of the limiting fuel to not "smoke" the engine....
all of the effects ? a map of "limited smoke"...
in the axes you have engine rpm and quantity? of the intake air from the maf(mass air flow sensor) in mg.....
the descriptor of this map works in relation afr-lambda....the cio? where 1 ? the afr and stoichiometric afr for diesel equal to 14.5 to 1, that is to say, that as your engine sucks in 600mg of air the ecu to comply with the lambda 1 you know that for those 600mg of the air of 14.5 parts of air to 1 part fuel or 600/14,5=41,37 mg of diesel to be injected....attention I wrote mg, which are milligrams...the ecu of your car works in mm3 and then you have to convert the mg in mm3...then thou shalt make 600/14,5/0,85=48,6mm3.....where to 0.85 ? a conversion factor as a function of the density? diesel is a unit? of weight to volume....
from this, it is understood,I think,that a lambda greater than 1 corresponds to afr more "lean" 14.5...values less than 1 are afr more "fat" 14.5...

Are without words.... you do? a statue in the living room of my house

I read on another discussion a user with a 147 120 hp that by unlocking the limiters iq would be enough to intervene on maps pedal, maps times in the case of crossing the 80mm3 (because the scale goes up to 80), the detailed quantity? diesel fuel would not be needed why? by unlocking the limiters ? gi? climbing to 100mm3, maps of lambda and limiters torque. Considering that reading the values of the map pedal original there are peaks of about 390nm and then it would be set to about 80mm3 maximum. Am I wrong?

If I said something sensible, my further doubt, they are the maps of the limiters iq, with the support of the other discussions I think I have found them all and 4, 2 of these have a value that goes to climb from 7700 in the gi? and the other 2 have a straight line to 10000. these values express the limits of the iq scale? the cio? 7700 correspond to 77mm3? If it was cos' I don't understand how to change them, the 2 limits to 10000 I think they are ir? that suitable if I want to pass that value to mm3, whereas for the 2 other facts to sega I do not know if increase in percent, or pull in a straight line. I don't know if I explained well my doubt.

[munro]

and everything right...except for a little clarification 390/5=78mm3.....80mm3x5=400nm....
for the speech limiters set to 77mm3're there...it draws a straight line to 80mm3 and stop..

[panterargento]

If you want advice please contact the online service of the forum who are professionals, then that you start to study something, and then maybe start to make some changes to your behalf, but at least cos? parts from a good base.
I repeat ? just a tip.

[GPoint]

If you want advice please contact the online service of the forum who are professionals, then that you start to study something, and then maybe start to make some changes to your behalf, but at least cos? parts from a good base.
I repeat ? just a tip.

To tell you the truth, I there are gi? aimed for? as I said I "love lose" time on my car. Then for safety using? the map of the online service since ? made by experts in the field and are sure that I give? never any problems, but will continue? to change the map TEST01 that I've started (and developed mainly thanks to munro) to see how it behaves in the car. Personal pleasure

X munro

The other 2 limiters being 10000 leave the ori, so if I wanted to do a test with peaks pedal 450nm about 90mm3, I just need to unlock the limiter by pulling on the line at that value of 90mm3 and adapt the lamda. The times are up to 80mm3 then I climbed a column and redid the values of 80 as if they were 100. To obtain times for 90mm3 I imagine it to set the ecu by using the 2-column or am I wrong?

[munro]

I believe that you are not wrong if you have rebuilt the column relative to the 80mm3 in 100mm3....
I believe that the ecu interpolate the two columns to give you the 90mm3....
however, ask me who it's? more of me....