I figured it out. You never stop learning. Of course this is what would put the flea in the ear, in the sense that in a mapping, there are who knows? how many extra touches and details, and, without wanting to do the processing, sooner or later, I'd like to find out how my car ? designed to meet different conditions of operation... Sure, a little at a time, in this forum avr? way to the front of my curiosity?.
I'm surprised that this is a surprise.
we must never forget that the electronic devices are tools that are used to operate a mechanical that has certain characteristics , physical dimensions, performance, and that manufacturers determine through this combination of mechanical and electronic features that the model of the car must have.
then, the ecu determines the vehicle but to the contrary ? the car as desired, which determines what needs to be mapped in the ecu.
Quiet, no problem, indeed thank you for the comprehensive answers. Practically everything ? born when I replaced the clutch and I decided to make a change to the Clutch+Flywheel by installing a Flywheel Monomassa. The car goes very well, the only drawback ? in sixth gear at about 2200\2500Rpm if I want to resume with the force she feels a vibration that probably before it was damped by the flywheel. If I want to put the map ORI the thing ? very small and only limited to the range of 2200\2300Rpm. By checking the values of the torque limiter in the original map at about 2250Rpm ? limited to about 350nm. So given that the problem only manifests itself in the Sixth, I wanted to avoid this hassle to be able to reload the map moddata. Among other things, the exchange of the GT ? the C530\6 that should be studied to rule 305nm, I was a species that in the map Ori's original value, and that value is exceeded of about 55nm fabrication, I thought I would find 305 as an upper limit.Originally Written by sergiot
Today I reduced the values of the limiter in Sixth gear from 1000 to about 340\350 to verify the problem, in fact I have drastically reduced the vibration only in the deterinata condition. Being a neophyte in the field, for now "giocherello" with the map to me ? been done, just to start to understand something and exclusively for personal knowledge.
I too had the same problem with a 156 1,9 110 hp, which when mapped to had the same problem of vibration in addition to a principle of the slip clutch. I have given weight, but the slip clutch, but by reducing the torque I solved both problems.
only that I preferred to lower the limiter general even why? with the low gears 1 and 2 when I started strong with the steered wheels I had difficulty? to check the steering.
I have already? tried to edit the map with good results, today prover? to further refine the map to eliminate the problem, up to the fifth gear, it seems to me to other problems, even my ? mainly due to the monomassa that dampens less vibration.
well I think it is a problem of the clutch....I also with the 159 I have never suffered from vibration and slip....now with a new clutch if you are on the highway and resume or a 5-or 6 gear from 2000 rpm or even more below....then around 110 to 120 km/h... it vibrates a lot....while from 1 to 4 pulls to the beast without chatter or vibration problems...and yet the couple set ? the same at that rpm in all gears......I think they are the physical limits of their component, perhaps not of very good quality?...why? before with the same map and clutch ori of the car with 70k miles, I had no problem.....of course now I regret not having made a clutch is different.... reinforced....but who knows? if I run....
In fact ? precisely for this reason that I tried the kit monomassa as the clutch and flywheel original have started to give some problems (not to mention the problems of excessive hardening of the pedal that does not depend on the map), the clutch and flywheel the original are not really of very good quality? also according to me. Slips with the new group I have ever had, and if all goes well I solve the vibration, which I think is still due at the rate of exchange does not have a great tolerance.
look, I have mounted a flywheel and clutch derivation coupe t20v, and I had no more no vibration even 6a to 2000 rpm to 1200 rpm if I'm in meta, gas begins to jerk to, but just do gas stops
Then we have the same Kit
how to inject with that flywheel? I arrive a little more of the 110mm3, but I also have a gt2256v derivation 2.4 jtd 150hp
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