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    you guys are terrific.....I think that what I have been explaining in this post is more than a good map nice and made....I have no words....
    now will try? to make a bearing in mind what you said.....I rest a single doubt:I found the limiters diesel out of the driver, no, but I understand for? how to change them, what? touch them only in the points in which I'm interested in or should we change it all?

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    Citazione Originally Written by jacktheripper2 Visualizza Messaggio
    Given that I still can't download your map I'll give you an answer to a question that nobody has answered, what do you find in the maps as the values are what they are. Maps pedal= torque expressed in nm, these nm are then converted into quantity? the injected fuel from the map 'deal? fuel injected, this amount? fuel injected ? expressed in mm3. From here, ALL. Meanwhile, this torque request, or mm3 that are required are limited by: 1) limiting diesel out of the driver (for maps with turbo stock it only takes 2), 2) torque limiter (expressed in nm), 3) torque limiters by gear (but a lot of you should already? have them already? to 1000nm except in the back), 4) map (lambda limiter fumosit?). The latter ? expressed in values of lambda, and ? to be converted to values in the AFR (if you write on ****** lambda to AFR, you'll find the tables of conversion, the stoichiometric diesel ? 1=14,7 not to have any fumosit? you should be 16 or even more? so you can burn all the diesel fuel, of course with the turbo stock I would put in 1 or even less for?, better a little smoke than a turbo broken). In this map the break point we have rpm and mg/Hub air intake, attention for? here the values of the air intake are in mg and to calculate the AFR you will need to convert mm3 who inject mg by mm3x0,84. Example: to 4000 rpm injects 62mm3 and you have to 900mg/Hub, then make 62x0,84=52,1; 900/52,1=17,27 of AFR.
    Now already? only by changing these maps, the machine can? go well without having to touch the other if not a little bit of pressure to the turbo so you can burn the pi? diesel that you request. Here you can give 100 points on the last 2 columns in the grid, and 50 points on the penultimate.
    I have explained the first main concepts now it is up to you to try. Of course with a bit of rail pressure, a little early and a little bit more? of injection times can you? still get a nice improvement, but for now it starts from the basics without complicate your life. Also, as it says in a very user-prepared to this forum, and the rail ? well increase it only if necessary to shorten the time of injection to the high amount? iq..
    Great, thank you for taking the time in this way.

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    Change only where you need it. You have 2 do you, what 'similar' to the torque limiter, which ? a limiter of the high pressure pump, you can do that in a team, to how much you want to limit (I'd on 90mm3), the other after the torque limiter instead change it only in the first point of each curve, starting from the second if you want to or from the third, the first ? for 1000 rpm and the second for 1500 rpm and then even if you leave ori goes well.

    Citazione Originally Written by 123alexs Visualizza Messaggio
    Great, thank you for taking the time in this way.
    I think that, first of all, you have to start from the basics and understand how it works is the ecu, from there you can? start to change how and where you need it..
    Last edited by leandro89; 12-12-2013 at 20:39

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    I confirm that this ? one of the limiters for diesel?
    limiter gasolio.jpg

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    Citazione Originally Written by ducati83 Visualizza Messaggio
    I confirm that this ? one of the limiters for diesel?
    limiter gasolio.jpg
    you can confirm that.
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    ok but for innnalzare the ****l diesel oil only at the points where ? shows the maximum quatitativo, or at all points?

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    The second limiter is to take it to the team (as long as you want to limit e.g. 90mm3) says jacktheripper2, the first where you've attached the screen increase it to brighten in the peaks where the quantity ? maximum.
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    as always too good

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    Smile

    guys after several tests I pulled down this map....
    let's say that I would like to first understand if I have a logic....even if I would like to scalarmi for good bp of diesel in the various maps, to adapt them to 100mm3 as required by the limiter and redo for well injection times.
    now the formula to calculate the time of injection ? (IQ*(K)/√Prail, where the constant K= (√Prail * Tinj)/ IQ????


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    Citazione Originally Written by ducati83 Visualizza Messaggio
    guys after several tests I pulled down this map....
    let's say that I would like to first understand if I have a logic....even if I would like to scalarmi for good bp of diesel in the various maps, to adapt them to 100mm3 as required by the limiter and redo for well injection times.
    now the formula to calculate the time of injection ? (IQ*(K)/√Prail, where the constant K= (√Prail * Tinj)/ IQ????


    please do not me killed http://www.professionalchiptuning.ne...cons/icon7.png
    For the time of injection uses linear interpolation. 100mm3 on cars with turbo golds are tantini..

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