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    In the sense that it absorbs power...exactly, I don't know how much, but in some of the discussion some expert has mentioned.
    Here, for example, http://www.professionalchiptuning.ne...osswagon-150CV then, also, in other that now I can't remember, but anyway, I think that the rail goes sexual stimulation after a substantial flow of diesel fuel, I think over 80 mm cubes, my intent ? inject that amount?, and, therefore, seen that the balloon does ? acceptable, I thought it appropriate to leave it to ori, but giving him a little freedom? increasing of 1% of its limiters.
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    I think, however, that to inject more? 80mm cubes, in addition to raise the limiters out of the driver, should intervene on the timing of the injection, or informing, or by tricking the ecu.
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    Citazione Originally Written by panterargento Visualizza Messaggio
    I think, however, that to inject more? 80mm cubes, in addition to raise the limiters out of the driver, should intervene on the timing of the injection, or informing, or by tricking the ecu.
    Bastonatemi if I said a stonxata...
    To inject more? of 80mm3 informing the ecu you have to raise the last bp and recalculated the times on the last column according to what you put on the bp. For 90mm3 by 10%, calcolandoli for good is pi? or minus 10% on the entire column. Do not touch the first points to 3000?.

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    Citazione Originally Written by jacktheripper2 Visualizza Messaggio
    To inject more? of 80mm3 informing the ecu you have to raise the last bp and recalculated the times on the last column according to what you put on the bp. For 90mm3 by 10%, calcolandoli for good is pi? or minus 10% on the entire column. Do not touch the first points to 3000?.
    Re-reading the discussion, I think you have not understood something...what do you mean by "do not touch the first points to 3000"?
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    It was precisely what I meant...the bp that is before the time to inform
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    Riesumo this discussion because I've made some tweaks to the map, and I have not deemed it appropriate to open a new one.
    Therefore, I would always have a opinion about it, I emphasize that the intent ? to inject 80mm3 and extend in speed? the maximum, remember that below 2500rpm, I can't give the increases also low, otherwise I vibrates the flywheel, and I really do not affect the performance under those rides.
    Thank you in advance.
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    Citazione Originally Written by panterargento Visualizza Messaggio
    Riesumo this discussion because I've made some tweaks to the map, and I have not deemed it appropriate to open a new one.
    Therefore, I would always have a opinion about it, I emphasize that the intent ? to inject 80mm3 and extend in speed? the maximum, remember that below 2500rpm, I can't give the increases also low, otherwise I vibrates the flywheel, and I really do not affect the performance under those rides.
    Thank you in advance.
    I still can't see the map but I tell you already? for 80mm3 times you can leave the original. In another discussion, I posted a map already? that should make about 190 hp with 90mm3 maximum, average, and 80/82mm3 to 4000 rpm. If you just 80mm3 begins to raise the last Break point on all the maps that have it, unless: rail,advance,pressure, turbo,vgt, and on those the main ones in regeneration. Those in regeneration, then leave them gold, while those in the main to the change only on the last point of the curves (or on the last column in the table), the vgt open it a bit more? but it could also not serve, then I suggest to make a test map vgt gold and only bp raised. On advances to 80mm3 by 1 degree 4500giri and 3 degrees to the 4000 if you raise the rail pressure to 1680bar, if not you turn it up by 2 degrees at 4500 and 3.5/4 degrees at 4000 rpm. Speed pi? low parts by 1 degree until you get to 3 degrees to the 3750. Always change only the last point of each curve, or the last column in the table, lifting the last Break point of the map to 80mm3 of course. To do it fast of course you can copy data or increments, and copy them on similar maps. Sincerely for 80mm3 the rail I would leave it original, as he always says another user of the forum, the rail ? well turn it up only when the IQ become high, and then also the times to inject certain IQ you stretch a lot, raising the rail ? can shorten a little bit the times of injection and cos? you do not have to? to give too much advance to be the pi? close as possible to the pms.
    Returning to the map on the turbo do as you will, I will, just the last point on the curves giving by 100 to 150 points depending on how ? the mass of the turbine and the last curves rather by a p? in the points before to make it more? linear, especially on the last corner make a 'triangle'. You'll certainly have to do a log and see how much air you have to 4000 rpm, calculates that if you have 950mg/s of air at those rpm you will need to set the lambda to about 0.95 to 950mg/s (and smoke?), of course, with the turbine of the original without adding too much pressure to the machine to secure a little smoke, giving 80mm3 to 4000 rpm, whereas ori ne injects 62..
    Try to follow what I told you, and if you want to look at the map I put in another topic

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    The map I made to inject the maximum 80mm3, time, and the rail are ori (of course the limit IQ out of the driver I get up just to 82mm3), also advances I left golds and I think that there is need to give some degree in as much as the machine does not smoke, especially at high rpm, only a small sbuffata if the ball hit the pedal but it's all over...for the turbo I have given up 125 points in pi? adjusting the limiters.
    I would like to emphasize that I am not an expert, and st? trying to learn, I do not understand what is meant by "VGT"...then I did not understand the fact of raising all the BP, that of the times would be the only one if I wanted to give more? of 80mm3 for example incrementanto the last point to 90mm3, but as I explained I don't need...mail the link to your map cos? I try to better understand, in this way to me ? a p? difficult...
    The car is quite good, and I would not go more than a question of reliability?...
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    Citazione Originally Written by panterargento Visualizza Messaggio
    The map I made to inject the maximum 80mm3, time, and the rail are ori (of course the limit IQ out of the driver I get up just to 82mm3), also advances I left golds and I think that there is need to give some degree in as much as the machine does not smoke, especially at high rpm, only a small sbuffata if the ball hit the pedal but it's all over...for the turbo I have given up 125 points in pi? adjusting the limiters.
    I would like to emphasize that I am not an expert, and st? trying to learn, I do not understand what is meant by "VGT"...then I did not understand the fact of raising all the BP, that of the times would be the only one if I wanted to give more? of 80mm3 for example incrementanto the last point to 90mm3, but as I explained I don't need...mail the link to your map cos? I try to better understand, in this way to me ? a p? difficult...
    The car is quite good, and I would not go more than a question of reliability?...
    For the question of the times and of the rail must be good cos?, for the advances a little give. But it always depends on how much to inject at high rpm. Have you tried to do a log? Inject 80mm3 to 4000 rpm and beyond? If you have left in the lambda ori I don't think so. However, for the fact of raising the bp to the other maps ? why? then you change only where by the most? diesel, and then only to the bottom of the curves. VGT=variable geometry..
    To give over 80mm3), you can raise the bp of the times if desired, the deception a bit holding the original. You do realize that giving 10% to the last column to inject about 90mm3. In that way for? she thinks that they are 80mm3, and then already? the lambda is just down to 80mm3 and not to 90mm3 as you should if you raise the bp.
    I don't understand also why? the limiters have them made 82mm3 and not 80 if so do you want to inject 80mm3..the discussion Here that I said to you.
    http://www.professionalchiptuning.ne...9-120-cv/page4

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    I have not had even a log, but, in theory, to 4000 rpm I should be 80mm3 according to the maps.
    The lambda I made them all to 1 (it should be the stechimetrico).
    The limiters I made 82 only to give freedom? maps, time, and anyway I don't think I go a bottle 80 as the times are ori...I would have been able to raise them up to 90, but theoretically I would have injected always at 80.
    I think that does not make a difference if I change the BP of the other maps to 80mm3, as 70mm3 then would always have those values, so to speak, for example, if I leave it to 70mm3 the BP at the bottom of the curve of the rail pressure, I would have a pressure to 4000 rpm to 1600 bar, but I think that the pressure would also with the BP 80mm3... therefore also injecting more? of 70mm3 I always 1600 bar those rides, with or without moddare the BP...maybe I might be wrong of this, I repeat I am not an expert.
    Dar? a look at the discussion...
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