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    what I do not understand ? how can you? a map of restriction selects an opponent ? the map lambda to smoke in a car with the change to the map times scaled up? if the air that has ? always that the variation of the stoichiometric ratio, and date only from the diesel in pi?...it seems to me you have read in previous posts in this discussion of a change to a p? coarse on the map the lambda if I remember correctly, in edc16 are 2 a based on the maf, and the other based on the map...in my humble opinion would be to try has to properly inform both of these maps, making all the calculations table without giving increments to cazzum...even if I have to say that, according to me, the key to have a map informed about the most tough of that inganata st? in the inform and moddare as you must map conversion nm>iq that I remember ? the map on which the ecu goes to "sceqliersi" the opening time of the injector in its map time...
    in conclusion what I say if the mod of the maps follows the logic of the method be informed that you can't? claim to inform the ecu on some maps and not others, but you should do this on all with congnizione cause...
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    Exactly there? I did, I informed also maps an overboost, turbo, and the rail , it seemed right to me also, the map nm/IQ I rebuilt as the 150 but before 350nm that ? the puntoax from the original and I left ori scaling values irrelevant that I was sure that the ECU would be interpolated as 25 75 125 and 175 nm

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    I don't follow tidus...also because not being able to see the work done on the map, I find it hard to interpret your thoughts...
    what is there now enters the mppa nm>iq of 150 is adapted to the 120?? if lai made only to take a cue on how to moddare your the talk then I share it...now? I am very curious to understand something more?...
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    guys..then..for purely academic, the map informed ? a good study...but for the purposes of performance and fuel consumption, from the tests made, both by me and by tidus..and also confirmed by msport...the deceived makes it more...
    I tried to do a thousand arguments, also set in a [...but I got the map "informed" deleted the mod to the bp of the times, and lifted the same time points.
    The machine goes more and smoke less.
    The explanation could be in the map an overboost: the ecu is going to choose the time of 90mm3 but in the map an overboost doesn't have that bo then takes advantage of the latest available..and that is that you smoke...but...this is a partial, where with the deception in the diesel fuel ? more and the % turbo ? equal (turbo spinning faster, the greater reattivit?) but not in the "everything down"...here the % of turbo ? always the same, and also the diesel...well, deceived smoke less and be more.
    Probably c'? something that escapes from somewhere...and yet, the only mod we have done to the test ? was indeed just that.
    Obvious that the times are not raised to cazzum, but always to get to a x mm3 of fuel.
    I reiterate also that 100mm3 turbine series are TOO many...

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    You for not smoking, 100mm3 need at least 1.7 1.8 bar, I now turn to 94 mm3 about, and I have a fumosit? acceptable to the exhaust, definitely on the map informed much do the elimazioni limiters with respect to the pump and to heat

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    Confirm that that already? we knew 100mm3, I believe, are really too many to turbo series 1.5
    As far as the limiters, the map that we had, was different only in the mod at the time...and ? another travel between map deceived and informed

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    Citazione Originally Written by mariodarkblue Visualizza Messaggio
    guys..then..for purely academic, the map informed ? a good study...but for the purposes of performance and fuel consumption, from the tests made, both by me and by tidus..and also confirmed by msport...the deceived makes it more...
    I tried to do a thousand arguments, also set in a [...but I got the map "informed" deleted the mod to the bp of the times, and lifted the same time points.
    The machine goes more and smoke less.
    The explanation could be in the map an overboost: the ecu is going to choose the time of 90mm3 but in the map an overboost doesn't have that bo then takes advantage of the latest available..and that is that you smoke...but...this is a partial, where with the deception in the diesel fuel ? more and the % turbo ? equal (turbo spinning faster, the greater reattivit?) but not in the "everything down"...here the % of turbo ? always the same, and also the diesel...well, deceived smoke less and be more.
    Probably c'? something that escapes from somewhere...and yet, the only mod we have done to the test ? was indeed just that.
    Obvious that the times are not raised to cazzum, but always to get to a x mm3 of fuel.
    I reiterate also that 100mm3 turbine series are TOO many...
    but if the map has an overboost ? scaled up to inform the ecu of all, and on all the maps, because you say: "that doesn't have that bo then uses the last available"?
    this line of reasoning, then, is most often applied by the method of the deceived where you can skip directly to the "map tap the injectors" (Tinj), and then since there is no feedback to the ecu believe they give an overboost for that date iq but really? if they are injecting more and then you have heat and smoke...
    many evvero ? in edc15, the method is tricked involves the above was just written as if riscali all the maps to inform the ecu does not smoke and the car v? strong...
    also I was reading the post of jacktheripper where it says that the car injects "quietly" 120mm3 even if with a big turbo and the car does not smoke at all with the map informed...
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    Citazione Originally Written by munro Visualizza Messaggio
    but if the map has an overboost ? scaled up to inform the ecu of all, and on all the maps, because you say: "that doesn't have that bo then uses the last available"?
    this line of reasoning, then, is most often applied by the method of the deceived where you can skip directly to the "map tap the injectors" (Tinj), and then since there is no feedback to the ecu believe they give an overboost for that date iq but really? if they are injecting more and then you have heat and smoke...
    many evvero ? in edc15, the method is tricked involves the above was just written as if riscali all the maps to inform the ecu does not smoke and the car v? strong...
    also I was reading the post of jacktheripper where it says that the car injects "quietly" 120mm3 even if with a big turbo and the car does not smoke at all with the map informed...
    I explained to m.. in the sense that not notifying the map an overboost or even informing the same, the result is the same...with the map informed I get heat and smoke and less performance...with the map deceived, less smoke and more performance..

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    Citazione Originally Written by mariodarkblue Visualizza Messaggio
    I explained to m.. in the sense that not notifying the map an overboost or even informing the same, the result is the same...with the map informed I get heat and smoke and less performance...with the map deceived, less smoke and more performance..
    in this last part of your post mario I had come to understand me/you wonder why a similar thing when it should be the exact opposite....
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    Citazione Originally Written by munro Visualizza Messaggio
    in this last part of your post mario I had come to understand me/you wonder why a similar thing when it should be the exact opposite....
    unfortunately, I can not give you an explanation...

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