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    The mass air flow sensor I hung up but I always use the maf off cos? the intake air ? pi? linear and greater at higher rpm, and allows me to inject 120mm3 without going in too much of a lambda.
    For the advances I don't understand what you don't agree.

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    Citazione Originally Written by jacktheripper2 Visualizza Messaggio
    The injectors according to me with 250 hp are a little on the limit,that's why? I wanted to make them increase. My trainer said that, unfortunately, have not provided the tables with the price increases for every pressure and iq, for? given that the ? been told that you are,plus 12 to 15% at 1800 bar, and comes very close to the mark-up that have those of Ducati corse, I wanted to try those maps. Now for? to have a little more? below I have put the maps of the 150 hp up to 1500 bar, cos? under injects more? and as soon as he gets to 1600 bar reads the time of the delta, and then I have the same egt, and nn, it seems to me bad to have 870 degrees to 250 with 2 bars.. Now I'm just trying to improve the constancy of the turbo pressure why? at 4000 rpm it makes me fall and then it goes back down to 1.9'e dates back to 2.05, the strange thing ? that log the opening of the vgt does not follow its own perfectly the values from the map and 4000/4200 when doing decline strangely, the geometry is closed. I had read a comment Sandro where you said that you would have to exclude the pid controller to adjust it well, but how does that work? For the case you pull a straight line to 10000? Why? a friend of mine had tried it cos? and ran better. I have tried both to use the pid of the 2.4 210 hp engine that has a turbine similar only a bit more? small, is the pid of the 16v, is my original, always change just a little nothing, and the best seem to be those of the 16v 150 hp.
    Now, however, charge 1 bar at 2000rpm, 1.5 bar at 2250, 2.1 bar to 2500, 2.3 to 2800, 2.2 to 3000, then falls to the floor,2.1 to 4000, 4000 size to 1.9 and then it goes back to 2/2.1. By log geometry at 3800 rpm ? the 32% and 4000 rpm ? up to 40% and I don't understand why? is cos? given that the map should open more?.
    As an injection, I came to 88mm3 1924 laps, 98mm3 to 2016 laps,107mm3 to 2119 laps and 120mm3 from 2250 to 5000..
    Smokes just a little to low if I throw it all already? at 1500, and yesterday with 5/10mm3 in less-no it was a thread of smoke even at those rpm's, now I have lowered it further to the lambda to make the injection more? linear since the first one had a drop, so even if you smoke in those rides okay why? by 2200 rpm does not smoke anything. ? hard to believe but even with 120mm3 not a thread of smoke.
    the egt that you get are good, not c'? really hurts, 120mm^3/s, however, are not too much for the configuration that you have you, and I believe that does not make smoke...
    Comunquer to adjust the turbine need to send to 0, the PID, there are several maps on my edc15 were 12 maps, after the turbine make? what you want to follow the duty of the vnt, then tarerai appropriately those values in order to have the pressures objective similar to those measured (not ? an operation by a few hours, I took one month) then you start to re-enable the pid, before the P, get them up until you get peaks are not high, but at the same time, good quickness? answer, the same as you do with the factor I, while the D I advise you to leave it at 0.
    Do not work the ones that you got from the other machines why? change a lot of things from one to another, also look simply the q.the.

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    Citazione Originally Written by SandroMarciano Visualizza Messaggio
    the egt that you get are good, not c'? really hurts, 120mm^3/s, however, are not too much for the configuration that you have you, and I believe that does not make smoke...
    Comunquer to adjust the turbine need to send to 0, the PID, there are several maps on my edc15 were 12 maps, after the turbine make? what you want to follow the duty of the vnt, then tarerai appropriately those values in order to have the pressures objective similar to those measured (not ? an operation by a few hours, I took one month) then you start to re-enable the pid, before the P, get them up until you get peaks are not high, but at the same time, good quickness? answer, the same as you do with the factor I, while the D I advise you to leave it at 0.
    Do not work the ones that you got from the other machines why? change a lot of things from one to another, also look simply the q.the.
    Cabbage even 12 maps.. In my sincerely I knew that are 4,2 of them for? they are in the process of regeneration so as not to touch. Also I have not quite figured out how to modify them to have more? reatrivit? and given that ? one thing very complicated maybe ? better if I leave it so?. Even why? the pressure drop that I have ? in the order of 50 maximum 100mbar for a few rounds and then not cos? problem. As soon as the avr? a little bit of time for us to see? if you managed to resolve.
    The fact of the 120mm3 I honestly don't think that the pump is able to go over, why? them injection by 2300 rpm or just before up to the limiter, an injection-100mm3 at 2000 rpm,110 mm3 at 2150 rpm approximately, and after 120mm3. Also what to me ? been said may be sufficient to more than 260 hp. A guy abroad has rolled 260 hp with 110mm3 from 2000 to 5000,1750 bar rail and 2 bar of boost. For? I've read that with those values you are ir? on, 240 hp, and that in order to have 260 ne serve on 120mm3 about.
    However, now we say that the map c'? and the car goes just fine with no smoke and no heat.
    Regarding the Maf, and I knew that the temperature can? also be read from the map, and that it is precisely with the bit to remove the Maf after could also be disconnected. For? does not seem so? apparently..

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    Citazione Originally Written by jacktheripper2 Visualizza Messaggio
    Cabbage even 12 maps.. In my sincerely I knew that are 4,2 of them for? they are in the process of regeneration so as not to touch. Also I have not quite figured out how to modify them to have more? reatrivit? and given that ? one thing very complicated maybe ? better if I leave it so?. Even why? the pressure drop that I have ? in the order of 50 maximum 100mbar for a few rounds and then not cos? problem. As soon as the avr? a little bit of time for us to see? if you managed to resolve.
    The fact of the 120mm3 I honestly don't think that the pump is able to go over, why? them injection by 2300 rpm or just before up to the limiter, an injection-100mm3 at 2000 rpm,110 mm3 at 2150 rpm approximately, and after 120mm3. Also what to me ? been said may be sufficient to more than 260 hp. A guy abroad has rolled 260 hp with 110mm3 from 2000 to 5000,1750 bar rail and 2 bar of boost. For? I've read that with those values you are ir? on, 240 hp, and that in order to have 260 ne serve on 120mm3 about.
    However, now we say that the map c'? and the car goes just fine with no smoke and no heat.
    Regarding the Maf, and I knew that the temperature can? also be read from the map, and that it is precisely with the bit to remove the Maf after could also be disconnected. For? does not seem so? apparently..
    I just counted, on edc16c39 I are 10 maps: 2 for the proportional, 4 for the intedrale and the other 4 for the differential.
    Anyway ? the turbine will make that trend even why? you do not have a pressure sensor that measures ir? of 3 bar absolute. mountain a 3.5 if you stay under, otherwise a 4bar absolute. if the pensore goes to scale the pid may not work well!

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    Citazione Originally Written by SandroMarciano Visualizza Messaggio
    I just counted, on edc16c39 I are 10 maps: 2 for the proportional, 4 for the intedrale and the other 4 for the differential.
    Anyway ? the turbine will make that trend even why? you do not have a pressure sensor that measures ir? of 3 bar absolute. mountain a 3.5 if you stay under, otherwise a 4bar absolute. if the pensore goes to scale the pid may not work well!
    Ok then I know that it's not the I know all the maps to PID. However, if you read carefully my first post,and if you see the map,you'll see that I have already? the sensor 3.5 bar..
    I wanted to put the 4bar why? it seems to me exaggerated,gi? a time laps of the 2.2/2.3 fixed they have to sell to me.
    You can share to address the Pid?

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    Citazione Originally Written by jacktheripper2 Visualizza Messaggio
    Ok then I know that it's not the I know all the maps to PID. However, if you read carefully my first post,and if you see the map,you'll see that I have already? the sensor 3.5 bar..
    I wanted to put the 4bar why? it seems to me exaggerated,gi? a time laps of the 2.2/2.3 fixed they have to sell to me.
    You can share to address the Pid?
    from 1e2330 find 4 D, 4 I, other maps, various, and, finally, *1e29c0 2 P.
    The sensor aveo read or don't recall, from 3.5, however, the pu? go!

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    Citazione Originally Written by SandroMarciano Visualizza Messaggio
    from 1e2330 find 4 D, 4 I, other maps, various, and, finally, *1e29c0 2 P.
    The sensor aveo read or don't recall, from 3.5, however, the pu? go!
    Thanks a lot,I for pid controller I meant all others..
    Where I have indicated for? I have seen the first 6,and then 1e29c0 other 2.. How ever I have seen 2? I imagine that we have the BP similar to others and yet they do not see them. I have seen that some stop at 3750 rpm,the other at 4500 and the other at 5500. Now for? I wonder,given that the values that I have to tot laps are the same for all of the iq,I should first try to update only the last BP putting 120mm3? Or I could also scale it by removing 30 and 50mm3 and making it become 10-20-40-60-70-80-90-100-120. Even why? for the low iq I think that there are no more? of so much, and that my problem ? with iq high that there are no axes.

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    Citazione Originally Written by jacktheripper2 Visualizza Messaggio
    Thanks a lot,I for pid controller I meant all others..
    Where I have indicated for? I have seen the first 6,and then 1e29c0 other 2.. How ever I have seen 2? I imagine that we have the BP similar to others and yet they do not see them. I have seen that some stop at 3750 rpm,the other at 4500 and the other at 5500. Now for? I wonder,given that the values that I have to tot laps are the same for all of the iq,I should first try to update only the last BP putting 120mm3? Or I could also scale it by removing 30 and 50mm3 and making it become 10-20-40-60-70-80-90-100-120. Even why? for the low iq I think that there are no more? of so much, and that my problem ? with iq high that there are no axes.
    The axis ? in the case that you adapt, otherwise you will not get modulabilit?.

    the maps to me are:

    *1E2330
    *1E2424
    *1E2518
    *1E260C
    *1E2700
    *1E2800
    *1E29C0
    *1E2AC0

    Then as you said yourself, the council ? working on the P factor with changes to read as an intervention, even modest often leads to an increase of the peak important.

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    I'd like to read these discussions to some trainer award-winning, only for the curiosity? to see that face they make...according to me a color(face)goes and another comes....ah ah ah...you guys are great 'c'? what can I say...simple enthusiasts who know much more than many of the alleged eternal parents are in charge with the smell under the nose...
    continue cos? that you are in the strong leg
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    Citazione Originally Written by SandroMarciano Visualizza Messaggio
    The axis ? in the case that you adapt, otherwise you will not get modulabilit?.

    the maps to me are:

    *1E2330
    *1E2424
    *1E2518
    *1E260C
    *1E2700
    *1E2800
    *1E29C0
    *1E2AC0

    Then as you said yourself, the council ? working on the P factor with changes to read as an intervention, even modest often leads to an increase of the peak important.

    I have tried to update only the pid with the iq that injection for? ? little changed nothing.. Now, however, are in practice managed to solve log after log. I always have a pressure drop about 4000 rpm, 2.1 switch to 1.9 and 200 rpm back.. and them involved the pid why? the geometry goes from 26% to about 35%.. I tried to open it drastically, coming up to 12% on the last curve and cos? I followed the map vgt from the log for? I was 1.8 after the 4200.. a p? too little..
    Today I raised? I lifted too why? ? again spoke to the pid. Now I tried to lower a middle ground to see if it goes well.. Anyway, the car goes very well and I think I have about 260 hp.. And the beautiful thing ? that you do NOT smoke if you are not between 1500 and 2200 with everything already? (injects over 110mm3 gi? at 2200 rpm and load 2 bar) at 2300 rpm)..
    I'm using the injection times calculated differently and not as I was before. You Sandro uses the interpolation? Why? I read your comment where you said that applying the same % that davi at the BP. For? cos? are much more? long interpolation.. I tried to use this method, however, and I find myself a lot of times high, and to get the eoi 4/4,5 degrees at 4500 rpm I have 3.6 degrees in the pi? the file of the 1.9 150 hp and 4.5 degrees in the pi? ducati racing where the use of the injection times. I do not know that are a few degrees in the pi? (counting then that to mean I have even more?) for? with the times that are cos? long I could not do anything. Cos? com'? is 910 degrees to 250.. First times interpolated, which were much more? the courts and advance pi? close to the pms I had never reached 900 degrees..? now has a delivery full.. Here is an example...http://www.youtube*****/watch?v=AZHMe...FYBn3-2EnEAkwg. I hope I don't violate the rules by putting up the video, and precise ? was made in the German autobahn (I'm in holland for a year).. Counting that does not smoke anything into practice (from the inside I can't see anything) and runs at 2.2 a peak from 2500 up to 3500, then 2,1 up to 4000 where it has the drop to 1 .9 to 200 rpm and then it goes back to 2.05 up to the limiter as the map objective.
    However, the only way to be able to do not intervene in the pid ? open both the geometry at the top with high iq, and pr do you have to lower the limiters.

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