To overcome 100mm3 injected on edc16c39

[jacktheripper2]

Hi all, I have a problem on my grande punto 1.9 with gtb2260vk. I take care of myself electronics, and I can not get over the 100mm3 with the map informed. The limiters diesel I should have them arise, good or bad, all are about 6 if I remember well, some set to 100mm3 such as those in function of the speed? and the function of the pedal. My problem ? that even with those raised to 110mm3, I have all the maps scaled to 110mm3 but I don't need to inject it from the log, and I really can't understand why?. I also spoke with a few friends mappers that I did see the files but they don't explain the why? since the file ? well done. Place gold and 2 mod (in practice are the same so look at well as just what the name more? long). There horrified for advances, rail pressure,injection timing, maps out the drivers, etc, as I fit a 1.9 16v from croma 1.9 150 bhp, turbo pressure sensor 3.5 bar (of course linearized as you will see), and the nozzles in the amount of 15% (and here I have not done the mod to 'fit' but I left the timing stock and raised for? the whole map rail to have injection times pi? short, this even why? are increased, however slightly), adapting of course the timing of injection for 110mm3 on BP climbed. The map conversion nm/iq ? been adapted by adding at the BP of the nm 550nm to 110mm3, maybe not ? just perfect cos? why? I don't know which calculation to do to? there is a conversion factor of 5 nm x mm3 (as seen from the damos) should go pretty well.
We say that is not ? a map from beginners to me for? I would like your opinions and help to overcome these cursed 100mm3.
Now I have to have 240 hp and is really just a little smoke, as if he had a map-medium/soft. Turn to the 2.2/2.3 bar peak and 1.9 after the 4000, I would like to get to 2.3 peak and 2/2.1 fixed-110mm3 so you always have a fumosit? light light.
I've tried everything but I can't really go more than 100mm3, I also tried it with lambda 0.8 but nothing, it always makes 100mm3 from little more? of 2000 rpm and about 5000 rpm. Sometimes it's just a piccata fast to 109mm3 but then drops immediately to 100.
Need the help of a true expert of edc16c39.
I also tried to see a file of a forum as a stranger in that iniettavano 105mm3 on edc16c8 for? there were no limiters in the pi? that in my file and I don't know pi? really where to head banging.

[angelolsp]

read here in this 147 and is set to 100mm3 but they had overcome, and then reported to 100mm3 because she was better if I'm not mistaken, he had come to 120mm3, however, you will find everything more clear from reading... http://www.professionalchiptuning.ne...1-9-JTDm-120cv

[SandroMarciano]

your problem ? *1CE176 *1DC68E in the axis of the IQ *1CC678 *1CC8BC. and anyway you have other limiters that stop *110mm^3/s
If I can then comment briefly on the map: ask the pressure of 2bar gi? from 2000rpm ? a big mistake, why? assuming that the turbine would get the surge generated it would break the core assy in a short time. the maps that you like I by a 150hp 16v (I assume) in some points were more? performance if it were left to the original I am referring for example to the pressure gradient.

[jacktheripper2]

your problem ? *1CE176 *1DC68E in the axis of the IQ *1CC678 *1CC8BC. and anyway you have other limiters that stop *110mm^3/s
If I can then comment briefly on the map: ask the pressure of 2bar gi? from 2000rpm ? a big mistake, why? assuming that the turbine would get the surge generated it would break the core assy in a short time. the maps that you like I by a 150hp 16v (I assume) in some points were more? performance if it were left to the original I am referring for example to the pressure gradient.

If the maps were copied from the 16v that would have been more? performance with those of the 8v are you referring to the rail pressure, I know that at some points the 8v had the pi?, for? I wanted to copy the entire management of the rail, for example, map 2 map rail, which ? the increase to the second pressure if I'm not mistaken, why? with that of the 8v not followed well the set pressure as you now have the best follows. The only problem ? that sometimes gives me error fuel pressure and I piccate to 1800 bar, especially in the first accelerated or in the gear changes.
With regard to the injection, however, I managed to inject 110mm3 finally, today I tried to replace the original bp of the map nm/iq, replacing the map with the golds of the 16v, and then raised to 10% at the bottom of each curve, and then as if we want to 110mm3 to 500nm.. Cos? by finally injects them without any problem.
For the turbo pressure of 2 bar at 2000 rpm and made them already? first, at 2200 rpm to be exact and not ? not a problem for the gtb2260vk, the important ? that does not make a piccata too high (I have already? tested with 2.8 bar peak and also some pull with 2.5 up to the limiter, the turbine is not ? the problem but the problem ? the engine in that case). However, it has no problem of surge, only when I tried to close the geometry of 98% was a p? in the surge, but now I have remedied.
Anyway ? a file that is studied and sweated and put them in the case.

[SandroMarciano]

If the maps were copied from the 16v that would have been more? performance with those of the 8v are you referring to the rail pressure, I know that at some points the 8v had the pi?, for? I wanted to copy the entire management of the rail, for example, map 2 map rail, which ? the increase to the second pressure if I'm not mistaken, why? with that of the 8v not followed well the set pressure as you now have the best follows. The only problem ? that sometimes gives me error fuel pressure and I piccate to 1800 bar, especially in the first accelerated or in the gear changes.
With regard to the injection, however, I managed to inject 110mm3 finally, today I tried to replace the original bp of the map nm/iq, replacing the map with the golds of the 16v, and then raised to 10% at the bottom of each curve, and then as if we want to 110mm3 to 500nm.. Cos? by finally injects them without any problem.
For the turbo pressure of 2 bar at 2000 rpm and made them already? first, at 2200 rpm to be exact and not ? not a problem for the gtb2260vk, the important ? that does not make a piccata too high (I have already? tested with 2.8 bar peak and also some pull with 2.5 up to the limiter, the turbine is not ? the problem but the problem ? the engine in that case). However, it has no problem of surge, only when I tried to close the geometry of 98% was a p? in the surge, but now I have remedied.
Anyway ? a file that is studied and sweated and put them in the case.

From what I know the 2260 at 2000rpm reaches the surge with just 1.6 bar maybe can't get there why? by changing the map of the volumetric efficiency believes that it is enough to a pressure pi? low... for me my personal experience I can tell you that on a 2256 (then pi? small) with 1.8 bar on those rides I evidently the surge, however, was just a tip, the turbine ? your and of course there do what you want.
For the rail I think you have touched some address, too, in the following discussion are posted to the correct addresses (only those needed really http://www.professionalchiptuning.ne...ghlight=edc16c.

I've noticed that you've turned off the air conditioner...

The system with which you've added to diesel fuel, however I don't like, see for example the table that regulates the power: to observe, that the reasons in the couple and not on fuel, so at the end you find yourself a deal? altered...

In the Duration instead? as ever all the upheaval?

[jacktheripper2]

From what I know the 2260 at 2000rpm reaches the surge with just 1.6 bar maybe can't get there why? by changing the map of the volumetric efficiency believes that it is enough to a pressure pi? low... for me my personal experience I can tell you that on a 2256 (then pi? small) with 1.8 bar on those rides I evidently the surge, however, was just a tip, the turbine ? your and of course there do what you want.
For the rail I think you have touched some address, too, in the following discussion are posted to the correct addresses (only those needed really http://www.professionalchiptuning.ne...ghlight=edc16c.

I've noticed that you've turned off the air conditioner...

The system with which you've added to diesel fuel, however I don't like, see for example the table that regulates the power: to observe, that the reasons in the couple and not on fuel, so at the end you find yourself a deal? altered...

In the Duration instead? as ever all the upheaval?

Starting from the turbo,the 2260vk geometry of the last generation, and it has nothing to do with the 2256 (that I mounted the first one), I had before the 2256,then the gtb2056v and finally now the 2260vk bmw. I know foreigners that run for a long 2-bar already? at 1800 rpm,in italy on the tdi usually have them at 2000 rpm and 2 bar,and in no case is there a problem with the surge. Then be said, however, I honestly do not throw it never gi? everything to low but always from 2500 and up.
With regard to the manner in which I gave diesel be simple,I gave the map a pedal that seems to me the best way. The map of goodwill I have copied that of the 16v and then I lowered the p?,as with the injectors plus if no injects too much and not good. Even now, a part p? delayed why? I think that I should lower the duration in the first area.
The duration is not distorted,are those of the 16v scaled to make way for the new bp.
For the rail thank you after the check of the well from the PC.
The climate, I turned off the perch? I removed it.

[jacktheripper2]

I would need help with something also,I have changed the motor, but I left both the wiring harness to the ecu of the 8v,the only sensor that ? been changed ? the phase sensor. Not having changed anything in the map, relative to its operation I error phase sensor (not the light comes on the motor, but I have the error only exists on ecuscan). I tried to look on the damos and there are many things related to the camshaft or cranckshaft signal,for? those pi? important are all the same between 8v and 16v. Someone help me to remove this error please?

[jacktheripper2]

your problem ? *1CE176 *1DC68E in the axis of the IQ *1CC678 *1CC8BC. and anyway you have other limiters that stop *110mm^3/s
If I can then comment briefly on the map: ask the pressure of 2bar gi? from 2000rpm ? a big mistake, why? assuming that the turbine would get the surge generated it would break the core assy in a short time. the maps that you like I by a 150hp 16v (I assume) in some points were more? performance if it were left to the original I am referring for example to the pressure gradient.

I just checked the addresses that you've told me. Then the first ok yesterday putting the bp of nm original has started to inject 110mm3,the second ? referring to the map of the times,what c'? wrong with them? The bp I raised up to 110mm3 and I recalculated the times with linear interpolation,how to 100mm3. The other addresses are the 2 limiters for diesel on the basis of the pedal/rpm and speed?/ pedal (or optimum operation of the engine, as I read in a topic). They are both raised to 110 so I can't understand them what c'? wrong.

[bart]

Hello jacktheripper2, can I intervene I, too, in the discussion?
I had a look at your map and I wanted to tell you about a couple of things to check with Damos:
Check out the size of the two plans to the addresses 1E2E4C and 1E7966.
In addition, in correcting a curve, you have probably put a point in pi? address 1E1DAE.

The map conversion nm/iq ? been adapted by adding at the BP of the nm 550nm to 110mm3, maybe not ? just perfect cos? why? I don't know which calculation to do to? there is a conversion factor of 5 nm x mm3 (as seen from the damos) should go pretty well.

Could you please tell me where is the conversion factor, to which address?

I would also like to kindly ask you, what are the values that you have the correct addresses: 1C782A, 1CF990 and 1D0B84.
Thanks

[jacktheripper2]

1D0B84 error mouse,thanks for the correction, 1C782A turbo pressure sensor (I put the sensor 3.5 bar instead of 3 bar etc? diagnosis to read more? of 2999mbar),1CF990 limiter diesel as a function of the engine rpm.
For the conversion factor I honestly can't remember,I didn't even look on my file, but I had only seen on the damos and I am sure that is the one.
Before making the map I looked at every single bit on the damos,a thing long enough, and I don't remember where? every thing except those which are fundamental.
1E1DAE not ? an error but ? the bit limitation of the turbo (ecm marks him, in fact).
1E2EC in fact it looks like a map 4x10. I got up, without looking good bp. The damos not the from but ? the third limiter of the vgt since only raising the other 2 before bed was pi? 75% while also raising this,even if I don't have very well understood what are the bp,the first may be atmospheric pressure and the second I just don't understand.
Should I raise just the tips to 6144, according to you, leaving the part that goes down is the original? So in the end what matters to me ? to close the geometry more than 75% up to just before 2000 rpm.
1E7966 according to the damos ? a map 16x16 and not 10x16, as it says in the ecm.