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    Citazione Originally Written by msport (exil77grande) Visualizza Messaggio
    instead, in the case of the turbine is increased and the pressure difference how you behave.
    Unfortunately, I do not do processing, and then not? answer for you on this topic.

    Had happened to me that I get a car charger and pressures of the turbo to the stars. Do the controls to follow-up( sensor, geometry, etc..) but I can't find anything, check the map and ? ori and finally had moved the regulator to have more? pressure. Usually I never touch. It was an experiment that I wanted to do

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    sorry , love, I had posted the mod wrong (incomplete)
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    to me it seems like a good mod, have you tried? what do you think?
    The only things perhaps argue are the pressures of the turbine, at high rpm the calerei a bit, in short, make sure that it has the maximum pressure at 3000rpm, then go down to 4000 do so, which is around 1.4 bar, otherwise the wear and tear will be? exaggerated. Among other things, that machine without the dpf has no problems, I doubt that fumer

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    Citazione Originally Written by SandroMarciano Visualizza Messaggio
    in the case of the turbine plus to do a good job I proceed cos?:
    before I turn off the PID controller and adjusting the duty of the variable geometry I make sure to always have the pressure measured above the objective (of a few mbar, once this is done, rinseriscono the PID and you can? give some point in pi? the duty with high flow rates of fuel in order to have an overboost and the inlet pressure times the smaller turbo. All it requires, however, numerous tests, to which the via ir? quick ? to insert an additional module in which you can? adjust the peak and constant.
    and if you turn off the pid map of duty don't you d? pi? the exact reference to operate the geo...I baserei only on a parameter to be adjusted or if you have too much pressure at high rpm to adjust the palette to have the same thing if you have lag in low... no ? simple what you want to do if in a chain in the feedback touches the controller who decides what will be? the input to the actuator? for me in the chain you just need to adjust the reference since? the pid calcoler? the output not only on the current value but also on those of the past and on speed? of variation...

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    the adjustment you the d? all right, commander? the turbine is a single map of the duty cycle, without controls on the pressure, the problem ? that ? very difficult to adjust the geometry when there are pid's inserted, the pressure fluctuates continually, so first you should find the adjustment of the geometry based on the pressure measured - objective, then act on the pid in order to have more? or less peak, the oscillation and pressure drops! generally as far as the PID controller is a good intervention ? to reduce the first and increase the second, but generally if the the duty of the variable geometry ? well-calibrated, you only have the "P"...

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    the duty cycle I intend it as the set-point of the chain is now measured pressure - set point d? my signal error that the pid process before acting on the actuator if eilimini the pid you left all without control, you'll first need to do 1000 tests without pid, and then you'll need to enter by force if you do not want to have problems and when you enter it you'll need to adjust the pid of the new set-point, and you forgot also that change it will not be? easy without knowing the calibration of the sensor and its gain... I would suggest only to act on the timing of the over and look for a compromise so it is always l? go here...

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    Citazione Originally Written by Already Visualizza Messaggio
    sorry , love, I had posted the mod wrong (incomplete)
    sorry, but the advance deliberately not have allinaenato to 100 mm? then 1cf480 I don't seem to line up and then I was wondering the map before the game why? touch it..

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    Citazione Originally Written by SandroMarciano Visualizza Messaggio
    to me it seems like a good mod, have you tried? what do you think?
    The only things perhaps argue are the pressures of the turbine, at high rpm the calerei a bit, in short, make sure that it has the maximum pressure at 3000rpm, then go down to 4000 do so, which is around 1.4 bar, otherwise the wear and tear will be? exaggerated. Among other things, that machine without the dpf has no problems, I doubt that smoke?!


    As I said I only neo ? the pressure peak! Smoke shade. So much for being sincere, the show only if, at night, behind you, a car with the xenon and full throttle after 3000 rpm. But ? very little.

    X ciccio gsr: the advances I have lined up to 100mm3 voluntarily. I gave up on that a little after 3000rpm at full load because 100mm3 usar? those and redo the entire map (in fact 5mappe) not it was worth it. As for the other map that you say, now control. cos? don't even remember

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    Citazione Originally Written by cicciogsr Visualizza Messaggio
    the map before the game why? touch it..
    I wanted to tap me to see what effect it gave. This ? my own personal car

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    Citazione Originally Written by cicciogsr Visualizza Messaggio
    the duty cycle I intend it as the set-point of the chain is now measured pressure - set point d? my signal error that the pid process before acting on the actuator if eilimini the pid you left all without control, you'll first need to do 1000 tests without pid, and then you'll need to enter by force if you do not want to have problems and when you enter it you'll need to adjust the pid of the new set-point, and you forgot also that change it will not be? easy without knowing the calibration of the sensor and its gain... I would suggest only to act on the timing of the over and look for a compromise so it is always l? go here...
    if you can adjust a gtb2260vk with this system you innalso a monument... gi? tried it, pick up the geometry to get it up to pressure and observe that you have a peak and then the pressure drops a lot and get the car ? dead under finch? does not have a second peak, and this time it will soften a bit and the pressure drops less, but you'll have a machine that scpinge by dogs, until the pressure will not be? constant...
    I know it's not ? a simple operation that I said, but with certain machines and certain turbines oversized ? the only way...

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