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    Citazione Originally Written by magi1984 Visualizza Messaggio
    question:but the maps of enrichment and acceleration,they pretty much work the add-on modules that you install on the accelerator pedal?
    hello,I do not know well the operation of the add-on module that you install on the accelerator pedal, but I believe that he will do only the function of making the car more nervous on the basis of the position of the pedal, and then does not increase the power but only the shot, while the maps enrichment and acceleration on the edc 16 have a function of enrichment of diesel, therefore, apart from the shot, the machine becomes even more powerful.
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    Citazione Originally Written by msport Visualizza Messaggio
    hello,I do not know well the operation of the add-on module that you install on the accelerator pedal, but I believe that he will do only the function of making the car more nervous on the basis of the position of the pedal, and then does not increase the power but only the shot, while the maps enrichment and acceleration on the edc 16 have a function of enrichment of diesel, therefore, apart from the shot, the machine becomes even more powerful.
    on edc16 I'm sorry contraddirti but they do not have to do with no enrichment of diesel, the maps on the basis of speed and pedal position provide the ecu information of the required torque.

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    now I will explain the why? my question...I've set up my map based on my personal needs, feelings, and the car is fine.
    now I'm having to play a p? in order to understand what will change if I change this or that.

    in parit? to increase given the injection split the car I smoke black, while raising the enrichment in acceleration the car does not smoke and it seems to me the most? aggressive
    from here ? born of my curiosity? to understand if the enrichment in acceleration only handles the torque or change the diesel fuel

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    Citazione Originally Written by cicciogsr Visualizza Messaggio
    on edc16 I'm sorry contraddirti but they do not have to do with no enrichment of diesel, the maps on the basis of speed and pedal position provide the ecu information of the required torque.
    I agree with you, but also enrich it with diesel fuel, in fact, if you can turn up the maps in a way you should, you see that the smoke does in spades
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    Citazione Originally Written by cicciogsr Visualizza Messaggio
    on edc16 I'm sorry contraddirti but they do not have to do with no enrichment of diesel, the maps on the basis of speed and pedal position provide the ecu information of the required torque.
    Everything that touches at the end, and' diesel then the ecm calls him in a way winols in another
    I give you an example torque limiter, what is, and what it touches mechanically ?
    nothing and always diesel or by or Levi
    Then say, enrichment, or the imitator and the same thing, instead, the discourse on gasoline and totally different.
    While when it comes to add-on module to the accelerator pedal and it is just a simple amplifier, in fact, amplifies the volts of the potentiometer pedal.
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    sorry but I am not of your opinion, and maybe for the beginners ? better to make this clear, the first thing to do ? true that everything you touch ? diesel ? true that there are maps that do vary the flow but on edc16 all ? in function of the torque, the torque limiter limits the torque map pedal requires it; supply and demand then go to other maps to become amount? of fuel to be injected... if you tap advance or turbo, you certainly are not maps that increase the diesel... the management of the torque limiter always very simplistic, but not ? cos?...the add-on module to false, only the value of the potentiometer in the pedal only serves to make the pedal more? anticipated the car seems to pi? reactive, but the substance is not there?..

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    Citazione Originally Written by cicciogsr Visualizza Messaggio
    sorry but I am not of your opinion, and maybe for the beginners ? better to make this clear, the first thing to do ? true that everything you touch ? diesel ? true that there are maps that do vary the flow but on edc16 all ? in function of the torque, the torque limiter limits the torque map pedal requires it; supply and demand then go to other maps to become amount? of fuel to be injected... if you tap advance or turbo, you certainly are not maps that increase the diesel... the management of the torque limiter always very simplistic, but not ? cos?...the add-on module to false, only the value of the potentiometer in the pedal only serves to make the pedal more? anticipated the car seems to pi? reactive, but the substance is not there?..
    of course, it is understood that the pressure turbo has nothing to do with the speech of the admin, but mechanically it is almost all diesel then theoretically you can study all you want, and edit as you see fit according to your theories, but on the road has the experience that is the one that for me is faith,for the add-on module that we all agree.
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    Citazione Originally Written by cicciogsr Visualizza Messaggio
    sorry but I am not of your opinion, and maybe for the beginners ? better to make this clear, the first thing to do ? true that everything you touch ? diesel ? true that there are maps that do vary the flow but on edc16 all ? in function of the torque, the torque limiter limits the torque map pedal requires it; supply and demand then go to other maps to become amount? of fuel to be injected... if you tap advance or turbo, you certainly are not maps that increase the diesel... the management of the torque limiter always very simplistic, but not ? cos?...the add-on module to false, only the value of the potentiometer in the pedal only serves to make the pedal more? anticipated the car seems to pi? reactive, but the substance is not there?..
    It was under intended that I did not speak of pressure turbo's nothing to do with
    what you say is not correct to speak of diesel engines where there is a high pressure pump two sensors, one on the pump that would be the regulator pres rail and one on the rail pres sensor rail and the injectors, just everything is controlled by the control unit ec-jetronic nothing how do you vary the torque?
    Simply by decreasing or increasing the amount? diesel
    The way how to do it, and changing the various maps contained in the ECU
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    I follow with great interest all over the speech guys ? a clash between the titans of chiptuning

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    on the operation of the diesel engine, I think that there are doubts about the edc16 based all the management of the injection on the couple in the edc15 all based on the IQ ? true that the couple ? proportional to the Iq of the speech was the party from the map-request logic if I'm not mistaken, should be required to be modulated by the lim torque then the info processed containing the optimum torque is converted into a certain quantity? fuel injected for a given time at a certain pressure...just by measuring the injection pressure is the processing of the torque value to be paid ... at least I spempre framed cos? .. any person can? rightly simplify the story to the end all that counts is the final result..

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