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    for me, making these speeches without seeing the map ? almost useless on a car like my 120d without fap if by 15% of the injection time and try to correct the diesel in the pi? only with the turbo pressure you have the car smokes like a chimney, not have smoke, you are obligated to tap the advances.

    let's say that up to 9 or 10% YOU can't not have fumosit? raising the turbo about 180punti
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    guidotacco asked as max % to be able to give on a bmw with fap then the rest of the map, not the views of anyone and we do not know the other,with 15% of diesel fuel, the car does not smoke, of course I said at high rpm because if you would give this increase down the fap is intaserebbe quickly.
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    ori as diesel injects the car in question??
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    Citazione Originally Written by magi1984 Visualizza Messaggio
    for me, making these speeches without seeing the map ? almost useless on a car like my 120d without fap if by 15% of the injection time and try to correct the diesel in the pi? only with the turbo pressure you have the car smokes like a chimney, not have smoke, you are obligated to tap the advances.

    let's say that up to 9 or 10% YOU can't not have fumosit? raising the turbo about 180punti
    I bmw without fap arrival: 30% and over,of course, well given, and with other devices,and the smoke ? acceptable!

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    yes, but the eg if the car ori injects 60mm3 with the 30% diesel fuel more you 78mm3....that it's not too many and the few.....
    I say that you could give the same increase, even on cars equipped with fap...the most important thing ? the car is "carburata" to perfection....not in the case of this car have a file with 3 or more maps lambda...the diesel particulate filter clogs with more fuel when not completely burned..cio? out unburned from the engine...but if the diesel in the most all is burned, the fap behaves exactly the same as the ori...
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    I 120d 163cv with fap,edc15c35, I started with a 12% and I've done about 15000 miles, then increased to 18% (if I'm not mistaken, but tomorrow in the workshop control) I have done other 50000km and I never had a problem with the fap.Turbo raised 170-180 punti.Chiaramente to low I started with a 4-5% and I interpolated with on 18%.

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    I forgot to tell you that the only problem that can? give the fap when you map the car heavily ? due to the sensor differential pressure....
    if you d? very diesel the turbo to "bounce" tends to increase by only press end the same problem occurs if you overdo it a p? with the press turbo of course....
    this factor because of the sensor that detects the pressure difference between before and after the fap for the rise of the press in turbo, and therefore, the exhaust back pressure upstream of the fap is intrepretato from the sensor and from ecu as a blockage that f? starting a forced regeneration....
    then the main problem when you map a car ? the diesel s?,because,when this is given with a criterion does not entail any problem, but for a speech of cause-and-effect the problem area and the pressure sensor of the fap....
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    Citazione Originally Written by msport (exil77grande) Visualizza Messaggio
    low rpm does not go beyond the 6-8%, and then slowly progressiavamente at high rpm you can get to 12-15%.
    and can give these increases also with fap? you are not likely to clog the filter more quickly? I thought the machcine with fap as increases were less efficient just not to create problems to ****llo clogging...

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    Citazione Originally Written by FA2ST Visualizza Messaggio
    and can give these increases also with fap? you are not likely to clog the filter more quickly? I thought the machcine with fap as increases were less efficient just not to create problems to ****llo clogging...
    you can give but as I wrote above, you should do it in a progressive manner, and that increase is seen only in the higher areas.
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    Citazione Originally Written by msport (exil77grande) Visualizza Messaggio
    you can give but as I wrote above, you should do it in a progressive manner, and that increase is seen only in the higher areas.
    so if I understand it,the increase should be given as a percentage, of course, from 10% to 100% load x understand?

    thanks a lot!

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