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    Citazione Originally Written by simone82 Visualizza Messaggio
    even if, for now, in the forums, but I have yet to find a person from a positive opinion
    Also I read here and there I noticed always the same. Now then, that I began to understand something, or recognize some map can I more? or less understand if it can? go or if ? by trashing and then downloading the map asking for opinions, not all of them were to be thrown away..***** s, the premises here are different and I hope they continue to be such even when the forum will be? grown.

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    From experience I can say that no one is born learned, but the one that counts ? the willingness? to learn.

    It's easy to criticise or sm***are the bride, maybe if you have a lot of baggage on his shoulders, giving for granted things that perhaps to others are incomprehensible. For? the fundamental thing ? study and read a lot before asking, and then after you ? in terms of being able to ask a smart question, which can? put in difficulty? the expert in turn.

    I when I enter a new field to me, I read all of the info that I find around, so when I have created the foundations for the beginning maybe to ask for clarification, and not some detailed instructions that you don't need to learn anything.

    By attending the forum you come across easily to people that ask you maybe how to make a map, in this specific case, and maybe the kind, I shall not want what ? a programmer... and in these cases goes, the immigrants? also the + willing supporters.

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    Citazione Originally Written by blackwolf76 Visualizza Messaggio
    From experience I can say that no one is born learned, but the one that counts ? the willingness? to learn.

    It's easy to criticise or sm***are the bride, maybe if you have a lot of baggage on his shoulders, giving for granted things that perhaps to others are incomprehensible. For? the fundamental thing ? study and read a lot before asking, and then after you ? in terms of being able to ask a smart question, which can? put in difficulty? the expert in turn.

    I when I enter a new field to me, I read all of the info that I find around, so when I have created the foundations for the beginning maybe to ask for clarification, and not some detailed instructions that you don't need to learn anything.

    By attending the forum you come across easily to people that ask you maybe how to make a map, in this specific case, and maybe the kind, I shall not want what ? a programmer... and in these cases goes, the immigrants? also the + willing supporters.
    your reasoning ? right but we are not all the same and for someone to learn ? pi? difficult, if you lack the basics according to me it is necessary to help, even for trivial things, I give you an example, me ? happened to replace the turbine of the my bmw in the shop I was quoted 3000 euro to work, I had called to tell me and looking in the web I've found everything and I have changed alone, are not a mechanic, but when I see a motor ? as if I was being totally spontaneous, I remember every thing so much of a perfectionist, a guy who I know has had the same problem and have also replaced the turbine, I followed it step-by-step helping in the dismantling, then in the refit has done everything for him, I was happy that I made him learn something useful, even if I had banged 3 months trying to get the pieces and figure out what can be done in the best way I know that the courses cost a heritage and I can't blame you, and the difference between a beginner and a professional is this, the knowledge and the commitment to reach it, but as I think I help, even a banal one ? always a gesture of professionalism? and seriet? in the pi?

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    Citazione Originally Written by garret Visualizza Messaggio
    your reasoning ? right but we are not all the same and for someone to learn ? pi? difficult, if you lack the basics according to me it is necessary to help, even for trivial things, I give you an example, me ? happened to replace the turbine of the my bmw in the shop I was quoted 3000 euro to work, I had called to tell me and looking in the web I've found everything and I have changed alone, are not a mechanic, but when I see a motor ? as if I was being totally spontaneous, I remember every thing so much of a perfectionist, a guy who I know has had the same problem and have also replaced the turbine, I followed it step-by-step helping in the dismantling, then in the refit has done everything for him, I was happy that I made him learn something useful, even if I had banged 3 months trying to get the pieces and figure out what can be done in the best way I know that the courses cost a heritage and I can't blame you, and the difference between a beginner and a professional is this, the knowledge and the commitment to reach it, but as I think I help, even a banal one ? always a gesture of professionalism? and seriet? in the pi?
    I agree....but not all professionals are as you think why? their knowledge is not the sbandierano around easily, many will take the map you just made by yourself that could go with small fixes like a map that makes you explode the car. Then they contact you in pm asking if you want a map made well in exchange for money.
    At the end are very few those who learn without doing the course, but only with the commitment and patience.

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    Citazione Originally Written by dvdtuning Visualizza Messaggio
    I agree....but not all professionals are as you think why? their knowledge is not the sbandierano around easily, many will take the map you just made by yourself that could go with small fixes like a map that makes you explode the car. Then they contact you in pm asking if you want a map made well in exchange for money.
    At the end are very few those who learn without doing the course, but only with the commitment and patience.
    you are right, but some serious professional qu? on the forum, c'? ;-) no names mentioned

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    I certainly do not :-)

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    Citazione Originally Written by garret Visualizza Messaggio
    you are right, but some serious professional qu? on the forum, c'? ;-) no names mentioned
    You I know already? someone really smart here on the forum.
    I consider myself a professional with women, not with the ecu...:

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    hehehe dvd you'll understand I am also the pi? handy with the women, but I hope to learn how to seduce soon some ecu

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    Citazione Originally Written by il77grande Visualizza Messaggio
    I hope that's part of your knowledge.
    You do and I look forward to a comment on the map golf that I posted.

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    Citazione Originally Written by simone82 Visualizza Messaggio
    oh no this was a mod that me ? been done,since I'm trying to understand so many things I would like and especially the mistakes,to me can? be good or evil, that not being professional, I can't see the difference, you understand...
    sorry Simon I'm wrong I already? of this file you're talking about elsewhere? a council of one who has white hair and knows almost all of the international forums and Italian I in your place I'd get good advice that you may have in this forum at the moment (personal opinion) everyone's behaving themselves in their possibility? to give you some help, if you go to re-read instead the comments that there are l?....you'll find that the intentions are different, I'm sorry, but not ? a critique..be careful you understand.

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