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    Citazione Originally Written by munro Visualizza Messaggio
    but ciccio tired to write always with the usual wants more participation...and how he's wrong....
    Guys I am very interested in this topic,
    on my ecu I have given 1? in the ir?. Little stuff, but the machine ? unnerved and ? sensitive the change.
    For? I don't know how to help why? I just did a test, without any great reasoning, I went to intuition.
    I am not a professional, and then I only have a little experience on my machine.

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    Citazione Originally Written by megamind Visualizza Messaggio
    Guys I am very interested in this topic,
    on my ecu I have given 1? in the ir?. Little stuff, but the machine ? unnerved and ? sensitive the change.
    For? I don't know how to help why? I just did a test, without any great reasoning, I went to intuition.
    I am not a professional, and then I only have a little experience on my machine.
    all f? broth....each with her she brings her experience and explains the topic...
    P. S:even I am a professional.....indeed....for? I say my right or wrong that is, nobody would lynch if I say something inaccurate..and without the other does not linciano, not even to yourself or others if you write things that are not exactly perfect...
    Last edited by munro; 04-12-2012 at 15:33
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    a degree in ir? means the 5% increase?
    and in that point of the map have given it?on the whole map, or only at high rpm?just to see
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    Citazione Originally Written by magi1984 Visualizza Messaggio
    a degree in ir? means the 5% increase?
    and in that point of the map have given it?on the whole map, or only at high rpm?just to see
    Watch I am attaching the screenshot cos? it is easy to understand.
    Are 2? in relation to the values that I have on my table + 6,48%.
    But them I stopped because? I saw that the limiter of the advance ? set to 40?.
    Then, having made a slight modification I would not. remained in tolerance
    Even if ? very little I felt the car the most? the nervous system, and even more? noisy.
    The increases I always try to follow the original in a progressive way.
    I put a screen of winols of the ori why? the axes on the ecm are wrong.
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    I don't get tired but I'd like to talk with someone who says they know how to change.. to evaluate if my ragionamente pu? be pi? or less right..

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    perhaps chris156 the s?...for? perhaps c'? the dir? pulling into the dance of the metaphors inconprensibili....type elevators, and floors of a building imaginary....no offense chris!!!
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    then after some of my research, I can tell you that most of the people who change d? increases feeling based on experiences.. only the designers of the engine know how to the advance required to comply with certain parameters, and I can assure you that in the first place metteno emissions and fuel consumption..and are calibrated with a side of variables just as negligible as the flow rate, the hysteresis of the egr, turbo pressure... etc..

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    the modification of the advance payments not ? one thing of the other world.. you have to understand what is expected of editing in the document that you posted there are written effects...I want to make it clear that the change in v? in its globalit?..to reach a goal that may be to inject more? diesel at full load or medium load.. before you fixed the purpose, and then you see how to achieve it through the proper measurements..

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    I can bring my experience on the injection pumps mechanical timing advance centrifugal antipas, the start of injection and rpm increases....this system does not allow a calibration as the modern diesel engines with electronic, and then when you do a nice p? of diesel to not have high smoke; hence, and the temperature of the egt is very high advance physically to the injection pump by a few degrees only, that being the system to change fixed to a minimum I feel the engine beat, while at high speeds, this not happens and I get as far as wanted, i.e. lower smoke; hence, and egt in the norm now and the fact that with an ecu wishing we could play with the advance payments, for making a engine that we want to...the problem is in the get them and try,and try again, maybe better on a test bench,until the result does not satisfy us for? in this, according to me, mathematics is cipu? help for the less not to go crazy when you bring furi road with evidence of the bad practice..cio? if in a given engine the builder decreed that for brucire tot diesel we want tot advance why can't we use a p? his work calcolandoci the road from percorerre?
    A rider does not create queues even in the car...
    a automoblista create queues even on a motorcycle...

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    and anyway, doesn't it ? having said that anticipate decreases the egt on a new engine why? increases the pressure in the chamber...

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